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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    That's what you want the believe. It NEVER occurs to you people that maybe she did f win because she is a horrible human being and people just know that. Let alone a fucking train wreck if a candidate she is a pompous arrogant piece of shit. She lost because SHE called half of the American population deplorable but since you agree with her you have no idea why that would lies people off. This is precisely why you are cockroaches and should only ever be treated as such.
    How is she "horrible"? Answer without referring to right-wing lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    How is she "horrible"? Answer without referring to right-wing lies.
    Well to start off with calling half of America "deplorable" is fucking disgusting. That statement expressed her CLEAR contempt for those who disagree with her. And then there was the "vast right wing conspiracy". The cunt absolutely refused to take any responsibility for anything. I have never seen a group of people with so little self awareness as you people. You people actually think the ONLY reason she lost in 2016 was some plot to destroy her. Maybe she is just a lousy fucking cunt and THATS why she lost. It never crossed her mind and it doesn't ever cross the mind of you shit eating cockroaches. even your statement "right wing lies" assumes any negative comment about the cunt is a lie. She got exactly what she deserved.

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    To answer the original question, some polling is done in the form of push polls or to generate a particular outcome in order to try and sway voters to support a particular candidate they might not otherwise support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Well to start off with calling half of America "deplorable" is fucking disgusting. That statement expressed her CLEAR contempt for those who disagree with her. And then there was the "vast right wing conspiracy". The cunt absolutely refused to take any responsibility for anything. I have never seen a group of people with so little self awareness as you people. You people actually think the ONLY reason she lost in 2016 was some plot to destroy her. Maybe she is just a lousy fucking cunt and THATS why she lost. It never crossed her mind and it doesn't ever cross the mind of you shit eating cockroaches. even your statement "right wing lies" assumes any negative comment about the cunt is a lie. She got exactly what she deserved.
    She lost because the Electoral College chose Trump. And she didn't call "half" of America deplorables. It's more like a third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    To answer the original question, some polling is done in the form of push polls or to generate a particular outcome in order to try and sway voters to support a particular candidate they might not otherwise support.
    That's true of Breitbarf and Faux News, but Gallop doesn't pull that shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    She lost because the Electoral College chose Trump. And she didn't call "half" of America deplorables. It's more like a third.
    No you said yourself she lost because of comey. Nice fucking try. Oh yeah much better. The comment was made because the pompous cow figured she had it in the bag. She an arrogant piece to shit and that's why she lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Well to start off with calling half of America "deplorable" is fucking disgusting. That statement expressed her CLEAR contempt for those who disagree with her. And then there was the "vast right wing conspiracy". The cunt absolutely refused to take any responsibility for anything. I have never seen a group of people with so little self awareness as you people. You people actually think the ONLY reason she lost in 2016 was some plot to destroy her. Maybe she is just a lousy fucking cunt and THATS why she lost. It never crossed her mind and it doesn't ever cross the mind of you shit eating cockroaches. even your statement "right wing lies" assumes any negative comment about the cunt is a lie. She got exactly what she deserved.
    There were plenty of deplorables in Trump's followers and there still are. She said that after a Trump follower threw an elbow into a blacks face as cops were escorting him out of a rally. It was a deplorable act and there are many more.
    Hillary is an adult, intelligent woman who conducts herself properly. That is the opposite of Trump and the opposite of how he urges his people to act. It is the opposite of how you post too.
    Trump urged his followers to beat protesters,saying he would pay their bail. He would not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    There were plenty of deplorables in Trump's followers and there still are. She said that after a Trump follower threw an elbow into a blacks face as cops were escorting him out of a rally. It was a deplorable act and there are many more.
    Hillary is an adult, intelligent woman who conducts herself properly. That is the opposite of Trump and the opposite of how he urges his people to act. It is the opposite of how you post too.
    Trump urged his followers to beat protesters,saying he would pay their bail. He would not.
    Shut the fuck up and go back to licking the pigs ass. You sound like a fucking idiot. I was asked to explain why I thought the pig was horrible and I did just that. Dont like it? I dont give a fuck. You sticking up for her is moronic. She lost because she is a horrible human being. Get the fuck over it or not but stop being such a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I can see why some polling companies would inflate one side or the other, they are being funded by donors or parties or campaigns to push a narrative, but why would independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning and the other is not?

    If they were trying to influence an election would the campaign not want their voters to believe it is very close, or that they are just a smigion behind?

    If your voters think you are cruising to a huge victory, (some say this happened to Hillary) they might just stay home, afterall the outcome is a foregone conclusion. If I were Biden I would hope Trump* voters would think he was way ahead, not need to actually risk your health to go vote.....


    Someone explain to me the advantage to a partisan to having his voters falsely believe he is way ahead?
    I've been trying to figure out if it's outdated methodologies or if they legitimately think there's something to be gained from all of this. Most likely it's the former, and they're being lazy and unwilling to adapt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    I've been trying to figure out if it's outdated methodologies or if they legitimately think there's something to be gained from all of this. Most likely it's the former, and they're being lazy and unwilling to adapt.
    In part this is the problem. How polling works is they use one or more methods to systematically locate those in the poll. This can be by zip code, area code on the phone, county, etc. The problem today is in part that people have mobile phones. So, you get say a phone poll that has people in one state listed as a phone number in another, so the polling company thinks you are in the place where your phone is listed while you really are in another state voting entirely.

    That's just one issue. Some people barely get "snail mail" any more. This is another. If you don't have a mailing address you can't receive polling material by mail.

    It's society is going through another technological revolution at the moment and things haven't been completely sorted out as to how they will run in the end yet. That is creating uncertainty and in part is getting bad polling results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Shut the fuck up and go back to licking the pigs ass. You sound like a fucking idiot. I was asked to explain why I thought the pig was horrible and I did just that. Dont like it? I dont give a fuck. You sticking up for her is moronic. She lost because she is a horrible human being. Get the fuck over it or not but stop being such a pussy.
    Yep, you are deplorable. Thanks for proving it so soon.

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    Long before an election - telling one side they are losing badly is away to discourage support. It helps to become a self fulfilling prophecy. Why donate money to the guy that is sure to lose? Why go to rally's?

    but it has a down side as well - if on election eve - the one side is being told they have a huge lead when they don't it could discourage them from wasting time to vote. No need - this is in the bag

    Fortunately, the polling company's have that solved. They can lie and claim huge leads all summer, then lie and claim just now the polls are tightening - the only polls that they are graded on are the final ones (the ones we have not seen yet). By then, its too late for money to get pumped in to buy ad, but atleast it won't prevent a Biden voter from voting - he now is not being told his guy is way in front

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Yep, you are deplorable. Thanks for proving it so soon.
    And you're a shit eating cockroach so what? Not one of you cum gobblers has proven me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I can see why some polling companies would inflate one side or the other, they are being funded by donors or parties or campaigns to push a narrative, but why would independent polling firms try to push the idea that one side is winning and the other is not?

    If they were trying to influence an election would the campaign not want their voters to believe it is very close, or that they are just a smigion behind?

    If your voters think you are cruising to a huge victory, (some say this happened to Hillary) they might just stay home, afterall the outcome is a foregone conclusion. If I were Biden I would hope Trump* voters would think he was way ahead, not need to actually risk your health to go vote.....


    Someone explain to me the advantage to a partisan to having his voters falsely believe he is way ahead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    No you said yourself she lost because of comey. Nice fucking try. Oh yeah much better. The comment was made because the pompous cow figured she had it in the bag. She an arrogant piece to shit and that's why she lost.
    Both statements are true.

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