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Thread: Why should we let votes overturn an election? Because that is what an election is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    your links have nothing to do with you assertion. You lied again
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    I want to apologize to the entire JPP board for being a mindless fuckwit
    thank you.....be honest, you are BucKKleon aren't you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Do you feel that the country hasn't been given sufficient time and resources to vote in a timely manner? What's with the "trickle in" votes ? But hey.... Let's give everyone until Christmas to get them in...and offer those who've already cast a ballot the opportunity for a redo...many are coming to their senses.....
    Your questions completely ignore reality and the law.
    Each state sets its own rules as to how the vote count occurs. All states don't certify the vote until at least a week after the election and some of them could take a month or more. The reason for that is because the process is built to check and double check that the vote count is correct. This is never done on the same day that voting occurs. The vote totals that are given out on election day are not certified. They are never complete and often contain minor errors in the counts.

    As to votes that "trickle in". That is just nonsense on your part. How and when votes are received and how they are counted requires laws and rules. Laws are passed by legislatures. Rules are set up by the Secretary of State under the laws giving authority to do so. Most states allow for leeway in voting if there is some impediment to voting. If a hurricane occurs on voting day or a pandemic is ongoing there is a valid reason to try to allow people to vote.

    Voting is the only right that is declared a right 4 times in the US Constitution. Do you have a problem with people exercising their constitutional rights guaranteed by the US Constitution? Unless you have some evidence you can present a court that is valid there is no reason to ask the court to not allow states to count the ballots fairly and honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Voters have had More than ample time to caste votes by mail....the will of the people has been completely respected....
    There's no need or excuse to mail in a vote on election day...
    Except for the fact that we have evidence of states not being able to mail out ballots in a timely fashion and evidence of people not receiving ballots that were allegedly mailed to them. Just look at the problems that occurred in the primary in many states.

    When the voter does not receive a ballot then they hardly have ample time to cast their vote by mail. Your argument is specious and disputed by facts. Secretaries of State have stated they are having problems mailing out ballots on time for a number of reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Your questions completely ignore reality and the law.
    Each state sets its own rules as to how the vote count occurs. All states don't certify the vote until at least a week after the election and some of them could take a month or more. The reason for that is because the process is built to check and double check that the vote count is correct. This is never done on the same day that voting occurs. The vote totals that are given out on election day are not certified. They are never complete and often contain minor errors in the counts.

    As to votes that "trickle in". That is just nonsense on your part. How and when votes are received and how they are counted requires laws and rules. Laws are passed by legislatures. Rules are set up by the Secretary of State under the laws giving authority to do so. Most states allow for leeway in voting if there is some impediment to voting. If a hurricane occurs on voting day or a pandemic is ongoing there is a valid reason to try to allow people to vote.

    Voting is the only right that is declared a right 4 times in the US Constitution. Do you have a problem with people exercising their constitutional rights guaranteed by the US Constitution? Unless you have some evidence you can present a court that is valid there is no reason to ask the court to not allow states to count the ballots fairly and honestly.
    Do you feel that the country hasn't been given sufficient time and resources to vote in a timely manner..and count votes fairly and honestly?? Why should absentee ballots that "flow in" after election day be counted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Except for the fact that we have evidence of states not being able to mail out ballots in a timely fashion and evidence of people not receiving ballots that were allegedly mailed to them. Just look at the problems that occurred in the primary in many states.

    When the voter does not receive a ballot then they hardly have ample time to cast their vote by mail. Your argument is specious and disputed by facts. Secretaries of State have stated they are having problems mailing out ballots on time for a number of reasons.
    They've had ample time....Most people don't need to vote by mail, after all....

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    So if Trump is losing at midnight will he say it is because they stopped counting? Will he then take it to SC to make them count the late votes? Will the SC then change their mind?



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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    That same modern technology allows votes to be counted much quicker.
    True. In theory, if we could find a way to vote electronically and have it safe from hackers or glitches, we could install a new POTUS the day after the election (or as soon as a new cabinet and staff could switch over).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Except for the fact that we have evidence of states not being able to mail out ballots in a timely fashion and evidence of people not receiving ballots that were allegedly mailed to them. Just look at the problems that occurred in the primary in many states.

    When the voter does not receive a ballot then they hardly have ample time to cast their vote by mail. Your argument is specious and disputed by facts. Secretaries of State have stated they are having problems mailing out ballots on time for a number of reasons.
    If a voter does not register to vote by mail, in time to vote, it’s the voter fault. Be on time next time.

    Votes that arrive a year after the cut off should be counted?

    Good grief.

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    "You people" don't think well. No argument is worth piss that relies on a single "demmycrat fuckwit" unless it is that the person making the argument, and slurring to do it, is
    not particularly intelligent. On your point though, when voters have to stand in line for hours the number of polling places is insufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    They've had ample time....Most people don't need to vote by mail, after all....
    Indeed, TOP.

    Men and women have died to defend free and honest elections.

    If some couch potatoes can’t get up off the couch in time to vote, that’s on him/her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Unless you've counted the opposition votes and want to cheat just enough to beat them.
    Many are waiting until the last day to put the fuck on that plan. LOL!

    PS: Absentee ballots don't even get counted unless the election is very close.
    Absentee ballots are always counted. It often takes a while but the counting of absentee ballots are why you will see vote totals changing for a month after the election.
    The race is usually called before absentee ballots are counted because the number of ballots is often less than the vote difference between candidates.

    If you think a particular state doesn't count absentee ballots then name the state and I will find the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    If the Democrats need votes in certain States, the Post Office will be buying delivering all the votes Democrats needed to find.
    That is utter nonsense.
    Ballots sent through the mail have to meet the standards required by the state.

    The voter has to be registered
    Signature has to match.
    In most cases the bar code on the envelope will have to match the one sent to the voter.
    The ballot has to be an official ballot sent to the voter.

    The Post Office can't just manufacture ballots out of thin air that meet the requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty alt-left Walty View Post
    Why should we let invalid votes overturn an election? We should not.

    Mail-in ballots without a signature (or in some cases, without a postmark) that are "discovered" after the legally-defined deadline are invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor excuse for a human View Post
    That is utter nonsense. Ballots sent through the mail have to meet the standards required by the state. Signature has to match.
    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has entered the chat.

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