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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    How about 2-3 days prior to Election Day. Shouldn't those votes be counted?
    Why'd they wait so long? They've had plenty of time...
    Count those...won't make a difference though...will it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Where does the Constitution say counting is supposed to take until December 15th? The Constitution says Congress shall determine the time of choosing electors and on the day they vote. Nothing about votes still being counted until 12/15.
    You are correct. The 20th Amendment says the Elector votes have to be in on January 3rd. By a law that goes back to the beginning of the USA, the Electors must meet in the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December, but that law could be changed. It does have to all be done by the 3rd of January... Or else change the Constitution.

    Now can you show me any law or part of the Constitution that backs up the claim that all the voting must be done by midnight on election day? In the past, they used to not even start counting until the next morning. I say Kavanaugh has made up this law out of his own mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    You are correct. The 20th Amendment says the Elector votes have to be in on January 3rd. By a law that goes back to the beginning of the USA, the Electors must meet in the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December, but that law could be changed. It does have to all be done by the 3rd of January... Or else change the Constitution.

    Now can you show me any law or part of the Constitution that backs up the claim that all the voting must be done by midnight on election day? In the past, they used to not even start counting until the next morning. I say Kavanaugh has made up this law out of his own mind.
    The 20th amendment doesn't mention electors.

    Never said it has to be done by midnight. For the same reasons the 20th amendment moved the date of inauguration, the vote CAN BE counted by midnight.

    Show me in the 20th amendment where it says elector's votes have to be in on January 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    We value the expressed decisions of the Supreme Court, Marty.

    That should be simple enough for even you to understand.

    Oh, that court is now 6-3.
    Not always, Earl. There are times that Court has disgraced itself. That should be simple enough for even you to understand. Let me know if you draw a blank and I'll fill you in right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    You still didn't answer the questions
    I say they take all the time they need to count votes cast properly....
    I agree. Am I supposed to have disagreed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In the past, inauguration day was March 4. Do you know why it was moved to January 20? A hint is it's the same reason why votes can be counted on election day not two weeks later.
    There was a lengthy period to allow for the tabulation of votes and for the incoming president to select his cabinet. It was moved to January because modern technology no longer made it necessary to wait so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Not always, Earl. There are times that Court has disgraced itself. That should be simple enough for even you to understand. Let me know if you draw a blank and I'll fill you in right here.
    I never draw a blank, Marty...you?

    Disgrace isn’t relevant, Marty.

    Decisions by the Supreme Court are final...unless a later Supreme Court decides differently, which is not disgraceful, just a different decision by a different Court.

    You may see this with Roe vs. Wade and restrictions by Democrats concerning the Second Amendment which has no restrictions.

    It’s 6-3 now, Marty.

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    Hello Walt,

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Kavanaugh asked a question in a recent decision, why should we let votes overturn an election? The answer is because elections are decided by votes, not what Kavanaugh wants the results to be.

    In particular, Kavanaugh complained that votes counted after midnight might change the results. No where did he come up with any proof that votes counted after midnight were worse than votes counted before midnight. Just that he wanted the right to cut short the count, if trump is winning. But what if trump is losing, then he wanted the votes to count.
    Kav is a drunken womanizer.

    I no longer respect the court.

    The SCOTUS has become a political football, thanks to Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    There was a lengthy period to allow for the tabulation of votes and for the incoming president to select his cabinet. It was moved to January because modern technology no longer made it necessary to wait so long.
    That same modern technology allows votes to be counted much quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Walt,



    Kav is a drunken womanizer.

    I no longer respect the court.

    The SCOTUS has become a political football, thanks to Republicans.
    Not proven, boy.

    You are a cowardly left wing POS. That has been proven by YOUR actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Walt,



    Kav is a drunken womanizer.

    I no longer respect the court.

    The SCOTUS has become a political football, thanks to Republicans.
    Why did you cheer when Americans and their families suffered economic loss caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    I never draw a blank, Marty...you?

    Disgrace isn’t relevant, Marty.

    Decisions by the Supreme Court are final...unless a later Supreme Court decides differently, which is not disgraceful, just a different decision by a different Court.

    You may see this with Roe vs. Wade and restrictions by Democrats concerning the Second Amendment which has no restrictions.

    It’s 6-3 now, Marty.
    You drew a blank with that reply, Earl. What is relevant is the correctness, or not, of what the Court does, and the topic of this thread is what should be the Court's decision, which your argument again evades. The most relevant of the Court's decisions, by the way, is Bush v. Gore which even Sandra Day O'Connor who was part of the ruling majority now says was wrongly decided. The will of the people is always paramount. The court overrides that on technical or pedestrian grounds. and by turning away from long tradition, at its peril and the country's peril.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Why'd they wait so long? They've had plenty of time...
    Count those...won't make a difference though...will it?
    so long as the person votes on time, it shoudnt matter if thee ballot arrives a day or two Lae.

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    It's not really an election if you call it before all the votes are counted and it could still go the other way.

    In that case it is called a FARCE.

    And then you lose the confidence of the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    There are insufficient polling places in large voting districts.
    no there aren't......we had a demmycrat fuckwit just last week claim there was only one early ballot place in Houston.......there were 122.......you people don't even lie well......
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