The only herd immunity we are close to is this:
People 'heard' things on Fox; so they are now 'immune' to facts.
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Stretch (10-27-2020)
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Stretch (10-27-2020)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..
De Oppresso Liber
Herd immunity happens with vaccinations, not with everybody catching it... Just sayin'.
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Walt (10-30-2020)
Well, vaccinations facilitate it.
All herd immunity means is enough individuals in a population are immune such that it disrupts the chain of infection; virus runs out of hosts and the epidemic recedes.
Note that it may not totally disappear. It just ceases to be an epidemic.
My point is that the segment of our population that has a *natural immunity* to COVID should be added to the number of individuals that have acquired immunity via infection. All the virus ‘knows‘ is an individual is either a host for infection—or it isn’t.
Ted Cruz tried to pin Fauci down on this very question and it was like watching him trying to nail Jello to the wall.
I have yet to see anyone provide a good answer for it—beyond appeals to authority.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Hello moon,
International cooperation?
Not likely.
We can't even get national cooperation.
Go to the market early, just so it won't be very crowded, and even then with all the space in the world people don't even try to distance. They get right next to one another to hunt for that one item they simply must have that instant.
Shoulder to shoulder may as well be COVID to COVID.
This never should have become political.
This is biology. Keeping distance is imperative in preventing transmission. The bug doesn't care who's running for president.
Shame on Donald for making this political.
Why couldn't he just do his job and be a leader?
We *SO* need a real leader.
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I just ran a little math.
The world death rate from confirmed cases of coronavirus is officially 3%.
There are 331,000,000 people in the USA.
If the infection rate reached 100%, then 3% of the USA population would be expected to die.
.03 * 331,000,000 = 9,930,000 people. Almost 10 million Americans.
But the theory is that through herd immunity we would never reach 100% infection rate.
If predictions are correct, herd immunity would be reached between 50% and 67% of the population.
That could give the disease nowhere to go and it would largely die out.
That would be from .5 * 331,000,000 = 165,500,000 to .67 * 331,000,000 = 221,770,000 people.
And the numbers of dead would be expected to be from .03 * 165,500,000 = 4,965,000 to .03 * 221,770,000 = 6,653,100 people.
If this is correct, we would not expect to see herd immunity until the number of dead Americans reaches between 4,965,000 to 6,653,100 people.
Do we have to have 5 million dead Americans before we can reach herd immunity?
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