The Wealth Machine

[CFM]

I care as much as the next guy, but what does that have to do with anything? Why do conservatives who claim to care about the poor and who believe that charity trumps government welfare donate so little? How much has Trump donated to charity?

If liberals truly cared as much about those and other similar situations where people did without what you lefties claimed they should have, there wouldn't be any homelessness, lack of healthcare coverage, hungry people, etc. You would have personally pooled your money together years ago and alleviated all that.

You stated the difference between how left wing bleeding hearts view things and how conservatives view things without knowing it.

Conservatives don't donate too little. Why would you say that? How do you have the ability to determine whether or not someone else has given enough of his/her own money?

It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to provide to someone what he/she is unwilling to provide him/herself. It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to feed someone else's kid. It's their parents responsibility. It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to make sure someone has healthcare coverage, a place to live, clothes on their back, etc. It's that person's responsibility. The sooner you lefties realize that the taxpayer's aren't an ATM, the better off everyone will be.

[T. A. Gardner]

What a load of bullshit. Besides, most wealthy Americans are liberal. You think Bill Gates and Warren Buffet support Trump?

Actually, you are wrong. Wealthy Americans who are liberal receive more attention in the media, that's all.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...tailed-tables/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasa.../#21cf3bc73e83

Wealthy Americans-- Those earning above the median income, tend overall to be slightly more conservative and Republican. On the other hand, those that are well below the median income are far more likely to be Democrats and Leftist.

On other factors, men and Whites tend to be more Conservative while minorities and single women tend to be more Liberal.

So, once again, you are wrong.

[Matt Dillon]

While I agree with thread OP there are some rich whose luck or whatever is put to positive use. An example would be medical research or supporting causes that do good but are not always supported. But many do less good things as greed is a powerful motivator. Two histories that cover the topic below.


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...nvisible-hands

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money


"The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining."

Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

Fuck off leftist. In the end, you don't want to work, and have us be your slaves so you don't have to work. Piece of Shit!

The reason you're a leftist shill making peanuts is because you don't want to work.

I make what you make in a week or maybe 2 in a day. And then some!

Go get a job, bitchboi.

[votebiden]

Let's look at some basic logic.

Suppose an individual had the goal of becoming fabulously rich.

How would this be done?

Obviously, working for somebody else would not make that happen.

The individual would have to set up a 'Wealth Machine.'

That would usually mean building a system that collects some money from as many other individuals as possible.

It could be a little bit from a lot of people (Jeff Bezos.)

Or it could be a lot from selected individuals (The American Health Care System, where people have partial coverage and require expensive services.)

It would be detrimental to the function of The Wealth Machine to care about the concerns of the individuals affected by The Wealth Machine.

Individuals with partial coverage requiring expensive health care would then have to forfeit their life savings to The Wealth Machine.

Great for getting super-rich, not great for those affected.

The health care system should not be a for profit system. Health insurance is a scam.

[TexanManWithPlans]

If liberals truly cared as much about those and other similar situations where people did without what you lefties claimed they should have, there wouldn't be any homelessness, lack of healthcare coverage, hungry people, etc. You would have personally pooled your money together years ago and alleviated all that.

You stated the difference between how left wing bleeding hearts view things and how conservatives view things without knowing it.

Conservatives don't donate too little. Why would you say that? How do you have the ability to determine whether or not someone else has given enough of his/her own money?

It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to provide to someone what he/she is unwilling to provide him/herself. It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to feed someone else's kid. It's their parents responsibility. It's not the taxpayer's responsibility to make sure someone has healthcare coverage, a place to live, clothes on their back, etc. It's that person's responsibility. The sooner you lefties realize that the taxpayer's aren't an ATM, the better off everyone will be.

We try to help people through government programs but you constantly fight us.

[TexanManWithPlans]

Actually, you are wrong. Wealthy Americans who are liberal receive more attention in the media, that's all.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...tailed-tables/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasa.../#21cf3bc73e83

Wealthy Americans-- Those earning above the median income, tend overall to be slightly more conservative and Republican. On the other hand, those that are well below the median income are far more likely to be Democrats and Leftist.

On other factors, men and Whites tend to be more Conservative while minorities and single women tend to be more Liberal.

So, once again, you are wrong.

So you define "wealthy" as anyone above the median? Weird.

[T. A. Gardner]

So you define "wealthy" as anyone above the median? Weird.

What's weird about defining it as having more money than average?

[TexanManWithPlans]

What's weird about defining it as having more money than average?

Because that's not how most people define wealthy. Median income in America in 2019 was $68,703.

[CFM]

We try to help people through government programs but you constantly fight us.

You've proven exactly what I said about you bleeding hearts. Claim to care then refuse to personally fund what you support.

It's not my responsibility to help fund those things for anyone. If you feel it's yours, it can be done without the government being involved if you actually cared as much as you claim.

[CFM]

So you define "wealthy" as anyone above the median? Weird.

You lefties define wealthy as anyone you can tax to fund things for freeloaders you claim they need but refuse to personally fund yourself.

[PoliTalker]

Hello votebiden,

The health care system should not be a for profit system. Health insurance is a scam.

It's just morally wrong to be profiting off of someone else's suffering. Wrong place to be looking for profits. Monetized compassion?

[TexanManWithPlans]

You lefties define wealthy as anyone you can tax to fund things for freeloaders you claim they need but refuse to personally fund yourself.

The real problem is that the government is terrible at managing money. Too much money is wasted or misspent.

[CFM]

The real problem is that the government is terrible at managing money. Too much money is wasted or misspent.

The real problem is you idiots on the left wanting to give them more of it while admitting they waste it.

A bigger problem is you not realizing that what you want for the "less fortunate" can be done without the government being involved if all of you that claimed to care would put YOUR money where you put YOUR mouth.

[TexanManWithPlans]

The real problem is you idiots on the left wanting to give them more of it while admitting they waste it.

A bigger problem is you not realizing that what you want for the "less fortunate" can be done without the government being involved if all of you that claimed to care would put YOUR money where you put YOUR mouth.

The government waste is largely due to partisan bickering and lack of oversight.

[CFM]

The government waste is largely due to partisan bickering and lack of oversight.

Again, you still support giving them more money while admitting they are wasting it.

You can do for those you claim need things they don't have without the government you say wastes money being involved yet you support giving that government more money while refusing to personally help those in need. That makes perfect sense.