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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    He's not all wrong
    That doesn't substantiate his claim, Anchovies.

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    Russia falsified information and gave it to a dupe (Rudy Guliani) who then gave it to another dupe (Rupert Murdoch) who published it in the New York Post under the byline of a reporter that had no idea the story existed, because the original reporter wanted nothing to do with it.
    Think he'll appreciate your attempt at a reach-around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So you say. Do you always hide from seeing things that "bore you" on political forums?
    Yep, saves time. You're next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yep, saves time. You're next.
    The fact that you can't back up your own statement bores you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So, as I suspected, you have no evidence to show that Rupert Murdoch controls content published by News Corp.

    Since you tried to move the goalposts by adding in "his son", didn't his son resign, Anchovies?

    https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/james-murdoch-news-corp-family-1234800150/
    Got it, the Murdochs don't call the shots in the News Corp, and when those closest to the story have doubts regarding validity, it means nothing

    And I don't look up your sources, learned a long time ago you shrink them knowing people aren't take that extra step to view them, kinda like banning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    That doesn't substantiate his claim, Anchovies.

    Think he'll appreciate your attempt at a reach-around?
    Entirely, no, but the his point is made, the whole narrative stinks start to finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Entirely, no, but the his point is made, the whole narrative stinks start to finish
    The evidence is circumstantial. And of course, this isn't a court of law. When a 'news story' is rejected by every reputable news source, and some that aren't even that reputable, it strongly suggests that the story is unsubstantiated. Combine that with the fact that we know Guiliani was being used by the Russians, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    The Murdochs don't call the shots in the News Corp.
    Since you've produced no evidence that they do, that seems like a reasonable assumption, unless you have information to the contrary.

    Given that Rupert is retired and James resigned, it seems unlikely that you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    When those closest to the story have doubts regarding validity, it means nothing.
    It means that some reporters at one newspaper disagreed with some reporters at another newspaper, doesn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    I don't look up your sources.
    You don't appear to look up any sources as a rule, Anchovies.

    That explains why you you stay so uninformed, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The evidence is circumstantial.
    Is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    When a 'news story' is rejected by every reputable news source, and some that aren't even that reputable, it strongly suggests that the story is unsubstantiated.
    Perhaps, but how are you defining "reputable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    We know Guiliani was being used by the Russians.
    Are you pretending to speak for everyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened here.
    It takes someone willing to jump to conclusions,though, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Entirely, no, but the his point is made, the whole narrative stinks start to finish
    That wasn't his point, and you know it, don't you, Anchovies?

    This was his "point":

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Russia falsified information and gave it to a dupe (Rudy Guliani) who then gave it to another dupe (Rupert Murdoch) who published it in the New York Post under the byline of a reporter that had no idea the story existed, because the original reporter wanted nothing to do with it.
    The Biden corruption allegations are open to question, certainly. Let's investigate. Oh, wait, that's already happening, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Since you've produced no evidence that they do, that seems like a reasonable assumption, unless you have information to the contrary.

    Given that Rupert is retired and James resigned, it seems unlikely that you do.



    It means that some reporters at one newspaper disagreed with some reporters at another newspaper, doesn't it?



    You don't appear to look up any sources as a rule, Anchovies.

    That explains why you you stay so uninformed, I suppose.
    So now the individual listed as the "Executive Chairman" on the company's website is retired, and it is not James Murdoch, but Lachlan Murdoch who is second in control, and according to you, neither calls the shots in the operations, got it

    The actual reporters involved in the story are hardly just some reporters, and they aren't in another newspapers, both reporters close to the narrative at the NYP and WSJ have their doubts

    And unlike anything you offered here, I've been pretty on top of it providing sources along the way, so you are wrong again there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    That wasn't his point, and you know it, don't you, Anchovies?

    This was his "point":



    The Biden corruption allegations are open to question, certainly. Let's investigate. Oh, wait, that's already happening, isn't it?
    Sure it is, the narrative is questionable start to finish, the fish stinks from the head down, pretty clear

    And the only entity actually investigation is the FBI, and they are investigating to see if it is connected to Russia's misinformation campaign not if Joe Biden is corrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    So now the individual listed as the "Executive Chairman" on the company's website is retired, and it is not James Murdoch, but Lachlan Murdoch who is second in control, and according to you, neither calls the shots in the operations.
    It's a fact that Rupert is retired, and it's a fact that James resigned. You seemed unaware of those developments.

    I didn't claim that Lachlan Murdoch doesn't "call the shots in the operation", Anchovies. I questioned whether any of the Murdochs control the content that News Corp. publishes.

    If you have evidence to the contrary, where is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    The actual reporters involved in the story are hardly just some reporters, and they aren't in another newspapers
    The WSJ and the NYP are separate newspapers, Anchovies.

    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Both reporters close to the narrative at the NYP and WSJ have their doubts
    And some do not. So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    And unlike anything you offered here, I've been pretty on top of it providing sources along the way, so you are wrong again there
    So you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    The only entity actually investigation is the FBI, and they are investigating to see if it is connected to Russia's misinformation campaign not if Joe Biden is corrupt
    Is that so? Who told you that, Anchovies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    It's a fact that Rupert is retired, and it's a fact that James resigned. You seemed unaware of those developments.

    I didn't claim that Lachlan Murdoch doesn't "call the shots in the operation", Anchovies. I questioned whether any of the Murdochs control the content that News Corp. publishes.

    If you have evidence to the contrary, where is it?



    The WSJ and the NYP are separate newspapers, Anchovies.



    And some do not. So what?



    So you say.
    Never ends

    Now why would a corporation put the name of a retired person as the acting Executive Chairman of their corporation on their website? And I never once bought up the name James, you did, I said Rupert's son was second in command, and of course the number one and two heads of the media empire have no dominating say over the content their vehicles produce

    Again, never said they were anything other than separate papers

    The "so what" is that those closest to the story themselves have questions regarding its authenticity, says a regarding validity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that so? Who told you that, Anchovies?
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ni/3661895001/

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