"Our country is full"

[Diesel]

How fucking MORE crowded do you want this place?

Let's say you have a fenced in Pasture that can adequately feed 10 Horses. Would it be wise to stick 10 MORE Horses in the Pasture?

Why don't YOU gather all YOUR money and go somewhere (not the US) and feed all the Hungry People.

Crowded? Where do you live? NYC is crowded, but it's also among the highest performing cities on the planet. The vast majority of the US is not densely populated.

[Into the Night]

As the World turns to Robotics and Automation, how many MORE humans do you want?

Irrelevant. Humans built those robots and automation. Humans buy those robots and automation. Humans maintain those robots and automation. There can be good money in it.

[Diesel]

If America is so bad, why do you want more people to come here?



In the 40s, yes. At the foundation, no. What we had before the New Deal was a functional system of private charities that handled poverty quite well.



Only if you have no comprehension of history or historical sense of perspective. Going headlong into Godwin's Law doesn't strengthen your argument.



Just because Latin America is a mess, it doesn't mean we have to let people in who are seeking asylum. Now, I would agree with the notion of no longer meddling with Latin American governments. Granted, every time that Trump tries to withdraw us from foreign meddling, the Democrats claim we're engaging in "isolationism" or "ignoring American interests."

Yes, the US does have to recognize valid asylum claims. That is the promise the country made in 1951.

[Into the Night]

How fucking MORE crowded do you want this place?

Let's say you have a fenced in Pasture that can adequately feed 10 Horses. Would it be wise to stick 10 MORE Horses in the Pasture?

Why don't YOU gather all YOUR money and go somewhere (not the US) and feed all the Hungry People.

I guess you don't get out much. There is a LOT of open country out there in the U.S.

[Saudade]

Yes, the US does have to recognize valid asylum claims. That is the promise the country made in 1951.

The process of recognition requires screening, which usually requires detainment as well.

[Into the Night]

Crowded? Where do you live? NYC is crowded, but it's also among the highest performing cities on the planet. The vast majority of the US is not densely populated.

NYC is dying.

[Jack]

I'm really not surprised at your self centered attitude, however, do you have a f**king clue as to how much vacant land we have in this country? Or how much of it is farmable? How much food is wasted every year?

But I would rather feed those in need then to give to the wealthy each year as you would.

Good. Go somewhere else and do that. But ...
DON"T tell them to OVERBREED and that when it gets TOO CROWDED in their Country, they can always come HERE.

[Jack]

Then die. Make room for another.

I was thinking along those same lines. Except it was YOU that should die. Do it now. Make the World a Better Place.

[Jack]

Crowded? Where do you live? NYC is crowded, but it's also among the highest performing cities on the planet. The vast majority of the US is not densely populated.

ButtBoy. Have you ever driven on the Freeway? Have you ever tried to find a Parking Spot at the Beach? Taken your kids to DisneyLand?

[Jack]

Irrelevant. Humans built those robots and automation. Humans buy those robots and automation. Humans maintain those robots and automation. There can be good money in it.

Night: "Irrelevant".
Jack: It's the WHOLE POINT, Cisco.

[Jack]

I guess you don't get out much. There is a LOT of open country out there in the U.S.

Mmmm ... yeah. don't want THAT. (Good Thinking) place sarcasm emoji here

[Old Trapper]

I'm not a Christian myself, but since I was raised with the religion, I understand its principles. Nothing in the Bible suggests that a nation take in all those in need.

Try reading the Bible:

III. WE BELIEVE how we treat the hungry, the thirsty, the naked, the stranger, the sick, and the prisoner is how we treat Christ himself. (Matthew 25: 31-46) “Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.” God calls us to protect and seek justice for those who are poor and vulnerable, and our treatment of people who are “oppressed,” “strangers,” “outsiders,” or otherwise considered “marginal” is a test of our relationship to God, who made us all equal in divine dignity and love. Our proclamation of the lordship of Jesus Christ is at stake in our solidarity with the most vulnerable. If our gospel is not “good news to the poor,” it is not the gospel of Jesus Christ (Luke 4:18).

THEREFORE, WE REJECT the language and policies of political leaders who would debase and abandon the most vulnerable children of God. We strongly deplore the growing attacks on immigrants and refugees, who are being made into cultural and political targets, and we need to remind our churches that God makes the treatment of the “strangers” among us a test of faith (Leviticus 19:33-34). We won’t accept the neglect of the well-being of low-income families and children, and we will resist repeated attempts to deny health care to those who most need it. We confess our growing national sin of putting the rich over the poor. We reject the immoral logic of cutting services and programs for the poor while cutting taxes for the rich. Budgets are moral documents. We commit ourselves to opposing and reversing those policies and finding solutions that reflect the wisdom of people from different political parties and philosophies to seek the common good. Protecting the poor is a central commitment of Christian discipleship, to which 2,000 verses in the Bible attest.

There's a nuance to the story of the good Samaritan that is often missed by both Christians and secular humanists. The message isn't that you should love all your neighbors -- it's that you should love only the neighbors who are fundamentally good in heart.

No such thing.

There are numerous bad people out there. Some of them are refugees. There are plenty of examples of Sudanese refugees that have come here and committed violent crimes. There are plenty of people who have come to the West but were raised as child soldiers and have a twisted mindset as a result. Because we can't assume that all who seek asylum are good of heart, we have a vested interest in detaining and screening those who arrive.

No one has said they should not be investigated. However, that is not what is happening.

Also, if you've been following a lot of what has happened at the border in recent years, many human traffickers come to the border with children and pose as parents. If they successfully enter the country without having the children separated from them, the children are then sold into slavery or worse. So detainment and screening is actually a crucial part of protecting child asylum seekers.

Less then 1%. On the other hand, the trump administration has separated far more then that.

[/MSG/]

You do not get to determine capacity. You are not the king. You also need to get out into the country more.

Yes I do. A single Boomer is too many.

[Old Trapper]

The process of recognition requires screening, which usually requires detainment as well.

There were rules for the detainment until trump, and then they were dismissed in favor of subjugation.

[dukkha]

The process of recognition requires screening, which usually requires detainment as well.

and no 'catch and release' either. Biden lied that almost all show up for a court date.
Maybe 50% at best.

Trump instituted REMAIN with Mexico - they stay there while they are getting vetted for asylum claims.
They dont stay in "poverty or cages" either -more Biden lies

I'm all for asylum and legal entry, but not "catch and release" and illegal immigration
Dems want to obscure the differences