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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    the Green New Deal is insane.
    Trump correctly pointed out our Nat Gas has made the USA the largest reduction of carbon.

    Biden wants us back in the Paris Accord -and can do it by XO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Ammonia is a $60 billion industry already, so the handling and transportation aspects are extremely well.known already. This paper in Science describes in detail how green ammonia can be produced.

    Ammonia—a renewable fuel made from sun, air, and water—could power the globe without carbon
    Burning ammonia produces NOx, gasses that contribute to smog. It also a low energy fuel, a bit like hydrogen gas. It has 7987 BTU per pound. Gasoline has about 20,000 BTU per pound.

    There is nothing wrong with carbon or carbon dioxide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    You dropped out of high school I see.
    And you were dropped on your head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Burning ammonia produces NOx, gasses that contribute to smog. It also a low energy fuel, a bit like hydrogen gas. It has 7987 BTU per pound. Gasoline has about 20,000 BTU per pound.

    There is nothing wrong with carbon or carbon dioxide.
    Fuel cells do not burn ammonia, stop bullshitting. Ammonia has nine times the energy density of Li-ion batteries, and three times that of compressed hydrogen, creating potential as a carbon-free energy carrier. There is also one very important safety characteristic, ammonia can be detected by the human nose even at one part per million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    You're talking about current technologies.
    If wind turbines followed Moore's Law, then an 8 megawatt six hundred foot offshore turbine would be about 3 foot tall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    If wind turbines followed Moore's Law, then an 8 megawatt six hundred foot offshore turbine would be about 3 foot tall!
    Moore's law is a fallacy here. You keep bringing it up - you probably did the same thing w/ computers.

    No. Wind energy is very young. It will evolve and advance in ways that you and I cannot imagine in our wildest dreams.

    Wind and solar are a big part of our energy future. Oil is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Moore's law is a fallacy here. You keep bringing it up - you probably did the same thing w/ computers.

    No. Wind energy is very young. It will evolve and advance in ways that you and I cannot imagine in our wildest dreams.

    Wind and solar are a big part of our energy future. Oil is not.
    how is it going to "evolve" materials? design? change the wind? space aliens?
    when will it "evolve" - before or after we cripple our fossil fuel industry?

    Hope for change of an energy source is not a sound policy - it's pie in the sky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So you are arguing for a cutoff value before calling an 'earthquake'. What cutoff value do you want to use?
    The official IBDaCutoff is a 2.6 Surface wave magnitude (MS) over a 4km area. A large truck driving by won't be felt one kilometer away. It's not an earthquake. California regularly has large-area tremors that nobody notices because only sentivie equipment can detect them. They too are not earthquakes.

    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    ... creating potential as a carbon-free energy carrier.
    No pun intended I'm sure.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump's Brain View Post
    And you were dropped on your head
    All that did was damage the floor.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    The official IBDaCutoff is a 2.6 Surface wave magnitude (MS) over a 4km area. A large truck driving by won't be felt one kilometer away. It's not an earthquake. California regularly has large-area tremors that nobody notices because only sentivie equipment can detect them. They too are not earthquakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    how is it going to "evolve" materials? design? change the wind? space aliens?
    when will it "evolve" - before or after we cripple our fossil fuel industry?

    Hope for change of an energy source is not a sound policy - it's pie in the sky
    No - it's based on historical models of exponential advancement in other areas of technology.

    And no one is suggesting making a full-scale transition without assurances. But a moon shot effort in developing alternatives and investment in R&D would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I love it when socks talk to themselves. It's always a challenge to figure out if you are just lying to other members or if you are schizophrenic.
    I worry when the Joe Bidens of the world become unable to distinguish between people and start thinking of their sisters as their wives. I hope you aren't doing that with your daughter.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Moore's law is a fallacy here. You keep bringing it up - you probably did the same thing w/ computers.

    No. Wind energy is very young. It will evolve and advance in ways that you and I cannot imagine in our wildest dreams.

    Wind and solar are a big part of our energy future. Oil is not.
    Give me a break ffs, I was in IT for over 30 years. I have a very tolerance for bullshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Moore's law is a fallacy here. You keep bringing it up - you probably did the same thing w/ computers.

    No. Wind energy is very young. It will evolve and advance in ways that you and I cannot imagine in our wildest dreams.

    Wind and solar are a big part of our energy future. Oil is not.
    I am done here, you just can't educate fools. Ī

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