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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    In 2000 Bush got 47.9% of the popular vote and Gore got 48.4%. Hillary won by maybe two percent in '16? I guess to me that doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this country is center-left. Generally speaking it seems pretty evenly split for the most part. But not the hill I'm going to die on.
    I agree it's close, but I think the rest of the world must look at stats like the OP's and shake their heads.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a tyranny of the minority - but I don't think our current gov't represents the people accurately. More people vote Democrat, consistently. Yet our Supreme Court is about to be ultra-conservative for a generation, and gerrymandering has had a very undemocratic effect on the make-up of Congress (imo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Once again for those of you who have severe reading comprehension issues.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT ELECTIONS.
    THIS IS ABOUT THE POLITICAL PREFERENCE OF ALL AMERICANS.


    And it proves beyond all doubt that America is Center-Left.
    No, it's not.

    It's about the political preference of Californians.

    Without California, the Hildebeast would have lost the popular vote by more than a million people.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    I agree it's close, but I think the rest of the world must look at stats like the OP's and shake their heads.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a tyranny of the minority - but I don't think our current gov't represents the people accurately. More people vote Democrat, consistently. Yet our Supreme Court is about to be ultra-conservative for a generation, and gerrymandering has had a very undemocratic effect on the make-up of Congress (imo).
    My response to the rest of the world would be we've had the EC in effect as long as America has been here. I'm no expert on the founding fathers but I believe they made it clear they were not big fans of direct democracy, hence why the EC was created. People are free to disagree with that of course and ultimately there are mechanisms for things to be changed.

    Looking at our last seven Presidential elections in only three of them did a candidate win a majority of the vote. That to me shows a pretty evenly divided country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    I know you struggle with reading comprehension as do most TrumpTards so I'll go over it again slowly and carefully just for you because I have compassion for the functionally illiterate.
    Inversion Fallacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    The Dems have won the popular vote in six out of the last seven elections.
    Yup... Your point??

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    If Biden wins (which he's currently favored to do), that would make seven out of the last eight.
    We'll see.

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    That clearly shows that the majority of the nation politically is center-left.
    No, it doesn't.

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    I know it hurts your little brain to process that fact but don't worry. Just say over and over to yourself "President-Elect Joe Biden".

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    You're gonna be DAMN disappointed in a couple weeks when Trump wins re-election by a larger margin than he did in 2016...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    In 2000 Bush got 47.9% of the popular vote and Gore got 48.4%. Hillary won by maybe two percent in '16? I guess to me that doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this country is center-left. Generally speaking it seems pretty evenly split for the most part. But not the hill I'm going to die on.
    what did she win?

    the word win has a meaning. It related to coming out on top in a contest

    We don't have a contest that includes the most runs scored in the world series and we don't have a contest involving the most votes nation wide.

    everyone looks stupid continually discussing this in terms of win or lose. If this was the contest, politicians would spend more time in regions that they are unpopular in

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    what did she win?

    the word win has a meaning. It related to coming out on top in a contest

    We don't have a contest that includes the most runs scored in the world series and we don't have a contest involving the most votes nation wide.

    everyone looks stupid continually discussing this in terms of win or lose. If this was the contest, politicians would spend more time in regions that they are unpopular in
    You're not addressing the claim of the OP which is what I responded to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    what did she win?

    the word win has a meaning. It related to coming out on top in a contest

    We don't have a contest that includes the most runs scored in the world series and we don't have a contest involving the most votes nation wide.

    everyone looks stupid continually discussing this in terms of win or lose. If this was the contest, politicians would spend more time in regions that they are unpopular in
    Exactly. To win something, it has to be part of the contest. It might be interesting to keep up with such things but when it's not part of how the winner is chosen, you can't win it.

    In most cases, the team that wins the SuperBowl, leads in most, if not all, of the stats. However, it's not required since the score is the only thing that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    If Biden wins the popular vote in November, it'll be seven out of last eight. What does that say about America?
    You don't seem to understand how presidential elections work.

    Electors don't vote their opinions or their preference; they are sworn to vote in accordance with their state's popular vote. If they don't, they are called "faithless electors".

    More than half of the states and D.C. “bind” their electors. The rest of the electors may have the legal authority to vote for whomever they want, but, as See-BS News reported, faithless electors have never decided a presidential election.

    Are you pretending that faithless electors caused Trump to totally triumph over the hapless Hildebeast in 2016?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    In 2000 Bush got 47.9% of the popular vote and Gore got 48.4%. Hillary won by maybe two percent in '16? I guess to me that doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this country is center-left. Generally speaking it seems pretty evenly split for the most part. But not the hill I'm going to die on.
    Okay, what about the other four elections? Again, we're talking about six out of seven and soon to be seven out of eight? This pattern is over the span of 28 years.

    Surely, we can extrapolate some conclusions from that. If you don't like center-left, can we at least agree that it's at least center and not solid right?
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    My response to the rest of the world would be we've had the EC in effect as long as America has been here. I'm no expert on the founding fathers but I believe they made it clear they were not big fans of direct democracy, hence why the EC was created. People are free to disagree with that of course and ultimately there are mechanisms for things to be changed.

    Looking at our last seven Presidential elections in only three of them did a candidate win a majority of the vote. That to me shows a pretty evenly divided country.
    That to me shows more than two candidates ran. I don't know where you're getting the "evenly divided" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Inversion Fallacy.


    Yup... Your point??


    We'll see.


    No, it doesn't.


    You're gonna be DAMN disappointed in a couple weeks when Trump wins re-election by a larger margin than he did in 2016...
    I hope you don't mind if I repost your above quote on November 4th to remind you how utterly clueless and delusional you are.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    If Biden wins the popular vote in November, it'll be seven out of last eight.
    What does that say about America?
    that we don't elect Presidents via popular vote and never have

    What does it say that you can't extend your appeal outside of a few very populated states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Okay, what about the other four elections? Again, we're talking about six out of seven and soon to be seven out of eight? This pattern is over the span of 28 years.

    Surely, we can extrapolate some conclusions from that. If you don't like center-left, can we at least agree that it's at least center and not solid right?
    I'm not familiar with anyone arguing it's a solid right wing country. There have been periods were it was more liberal and periods where it was more conservative is how I view it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    That to me shows more than two candidates ran. I don't know where you're getting the "evenly divided" thing.
    If the premise is we are a right or left-center country based on what percentage of votes the Republican and Democratic candidates receive, and they don't receive majorities, then I don't believe they show the country leaning politically in one direction or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    If Biden wins the popular vote in November, it'll be seven out of last eight.
    What does that say about America?
    Cool! Too bad it doesn't mean jack shit. States rights.

    And if you think small blue states would be in favor of getting rid of the electoral college. GUESS AGAIN MORON!
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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