Same Sex Marriages

[Doc Dutch]

Nothing.
But they are unqualified for the benefits.

What benefits and why? The benefit of survivorship? Adoptive parental rights?

[Doc Dutch]

Note he says zero PLANS. Still supports the construct.

Sorry but I'm not following your meaning of "the construct". Are you saying the Constitution doesn't apply to gays? What other American citizens doesn't it apply to?

[Doc Dutch]

What is he moving on from??

I didn't take notes. Trump is "stream of consciousness". He's a moving target who moves from anything that doesn't present results and sticking a bit with those that do. It goes with the maxim about what people say is important but also what they don't say. Fox covered the rally entirely while CNN dropped out and MSNBC didn't even bother.

My overall impression was that the crowd was more muted than past Trump rallies. In some cases, they didn't respond at all when Trump raised a topic. Try to catch one of his few remaining rallies. It's interesting.

[Bill]

I didn't take notes. Trump is "stream of consciousness". He's a moving target who moves from anything that doesn't present results and sticking a bit with those that do. It goes with the maxim about what people say is important but also what they don't say. Fox covered the rally entirely while CNN dropped out and MSNBC didn't even bother.

My overall impression was that the crowd was more muted than past Trump rallies. In some cases, they didn't respond at all when Trump raised a topic. Try to catch one of his few remaining rallies. It's interesting.

Interesting & good..... he is losing his mojo even w/ some of them.......

I could not watch that........... I have seen bits & pieces of several, I could not sit for more than a min or two through one of those..

[ThatOwlWoman]

Wrong. Icky has nothing to do with it, try biology.

I gave you biology but you pretended you didn't notice.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Agreed and, IMO, that's clearly wrong per the Constitution.

BTW, I'm watching Trump's Michigan rally live on Fox. The guy is truly a great showman who knows how to read a crowd. Interestingly, he's not getting the same cheers for certain subjects as he did a month ago. He's experienced enough to quickly move on but it's interesting how he knows when to stick with topic and when to move on.

Yep, he is the consummate circus barker.

[Doc Dutch]

Yep, he is the consummate circus barker.

It's Trump's superpower; the only thing he can truly claim is his own.

[Celticguy]

How does the lifestyle of married gay couples in San Francisco or New York cost you money?

This isnt about sodomy, this is about benefits.

[Celticguy]

What benefits and why? The benefit of survivorship? Adoptive parental rights?

Health ins, SS, a wide swath of survivorship, yes, taxes and much more.

[Celticguy]

Sorry but I'm not following your meaning of "the construct". Are you saying the Constitution doesn't apply to gays? What other American citizens doesn't it apply to?

Man + woman = a natural and beneficial arrangement to society as a whole.

[Celticguy]

I gave you biology but you pretended you didn't notice.

You brought up icky. I dont care what they do to themselves in private.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Man + woman = a natural and beneficial arrangement to society as a whole.

'Nature' seems to have included homosexuality in all recorded societies (and species, probably), and as people get older, most of them prefer to settle in pairs. It seems sensible to set up appropriate institutions, surely?

[katzgar]

This isnt about sodomy, this is about benefits.

nope, its about you being low IQ

[Doc Dutch]

This isnt about sodomy, this is about benefits.

Sorry but disagreed. This is about Constitutional rights. There are only two ways to keep within the Constitution: Either eliminate the benefits or apply them to all Americans. I'm good either way.

[Doc Dutch]

Man + woman = a natural and beneficial arrangement to society as a whole.

Natural, yes. Judging "beneficial arrangement for society" is a judgement call. Do you also favor "separate but equal"? Banning miscegenation? Weren't the same excuses you are using applied to Jim Crow?