Turley weighs in on it

[Darth Omar]

Even if the campaign cannot deny that the computer was Hunter Biden’s, it could deny that these incriminating pictures and emails were his.

Again, crickets.

Note that if these are fabricated emails or pictures, this would be a serious federal crime and the basis for legal action.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hunt...mpression=true
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Yes the link is Fox News, but Turley is a Democrat and an excellent *actual moderate* to follow for analysis.

And this is why I follow him: he typically has a different take on things. He’s not in Trump’s camp—not in Biden’s camp, so he bears listening to.

And he brings up a good point about the Biden camp ‘not barking’ when they should be barking. If Hunter Gate is fake news, then Rudy and some other people are left wide open for a defamation suit.

Nothing but crickets.

[dukkha]

here was ample reason to be skeptical about the sketchy account of a computer being left by Hunter Biden at a computer store with a man who cannot see beyond a couple of feet. And then there is the timing of disclosure just weeks before an election.

The problem was the absence of "barks" from the Biden camp. The computer files revealed a host of embarrassing pictures of Hunter Biden using drugs or exposed in other embarrassing ways.

The emails contain dates and addresses that match up with confirmed records.

If they are fabricated, there were three barks that we would have expected within hours of the release.

Bark 1: This was not Hunter Biden’s computer

The most obvious response would be that this is not the computer of Hunter Biden. After all, the computer store owner John Paul Mac Isaac who is legally blind said that he could not recognize the person who dropped off the laptop.
However, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has now stated, as a fact, that “the laptop was left by Hunter Biden, in an inebriated, heavily inebriated state with the merchant.” That does not purport with what Isaac said.

However, there remains the question of a laptop with a “Beau Biden Foundation” sticker on it with highly incriminating files.

Someone in the campaign must have called Hunter Biden and he had to have told them whether or not it was his laptop.

The response on ownership has been crickets for days.

Bark 2: These were not Hunter Biden’s photos or emails

Even if the campaign cannot deny that the computer was Hunter Biden’s, it could deny that these incriminating pictures and emails were his.

Again, crickets.

Note that if these are fabricated emails or pictures, this would be a serious federal crime and the basis for legal action.

The Biden camp has no shortage of lawyers. Indeed, they have been signing up lawyers in droves in preparation for election challenges.

Yet, there is not a single allegation of fraud or fabrication after days of a brewing scandal.

Bark 3: This is defamation

Perhaps this bark is the most telling. If these emails or pictures are fabricated, it is a clear case of defamation and other tort actions.

It would seem that one of the hundreds of lawyers currently lined up by the Biden campaign would fire off an "intent to sue" letter.

Truth is a defense to defamation, so the letter might start with the earlier bark and deny that this was Hunter Biden’s computer and these were Hunter Biden’s file.

One big difference between the legal and political worlds is that in the latter there is no protection for the right to remain silent. In politics, scandals can be managed but not silently.

Instead of these obvious barks, the public heard something closer to a whimper: that the campaign could not find any notation on Vice President Biden's official schedule that he met with a Ukrainian figure connected to the payments to his son Hunter Biden.

It would be a curious sight in itself for Biden’s official schedule to include “meeting with Ukrainian connected to Hunter.” Many meetings are not part of an official schedule that staffers know is subject to official records laws for preservation and review.

That is what is so curious about the Hunter Biden story and, to move from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle to Lewis Carroll, it is becoming “curiouser and curiouser.”

[Legion]

[Darth Omar]

here was ample reason to be skeptical about the sketchy account of a computer being left by Hunter Biden at a computer store with a man who cannot see beyond a couple of feet. And then there is the timing of disclosure just weeks before an election.

The problem was the absence of "barks" from the Biden camp. The computer files revealed a host of embarrassing pictures of Hunter Biden using drugs or exposed in other embarrassing ways.

The emails contain dates and addresses that match up with confirmed records.

If they are fabricated, there were three barks that we would have expected within hours of the release.

Bark 1: This was not Hunter Biden’s computer

The most obvious response would be that this is not the computer of Hunter Biden. After all, the computer store owner John Paul Mac Isaac who is legally blind said that he could not recognize the person who dropped off the laptop.
However, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has now stated, as a fact, that “the laptop was left by Hunter Biden, in an inebriated, heavily inebriated state with the merchant.” That does not purport with what Isaac said.

However, there remains the question of a laptop with a “Beau Biden Foundation” sticker on it with highly incriminating files.

Someone in the campaign must have called Hunter Biden and he had to have told them whether or not it was his laptop.

The response on ownership has been crickets for days.

Bark 2: These were not Hunter Biden’s photos or emails

Even if the campaign cannot deny that the computer was Hunter Biden’s, it could deny that these incriminating pictures and emails were his.

Again, crickets.

Note that if these are fabricated emails or pictures, this would be a serious federal crime and the basis for legal action.

The Biden camp has no shortage of lawyers. Indeed, they have been signing up lawyers in droves in preparation for election challenges.

Yet, there is not a single allegation of fraud or fabrication after days of a brewing scandal.

Bark 3: This is defamation

Perhaps this bark is the most telling. If these emails or pictures are fabricated, it is a clear case of defamation and other tort actions.

It would seem that one of the hundreds of lawyers currently lined up by the Biden campaign would fire off an "intent to sue" letter.

Truth is a defense to defamation, so the letter might start with the earlier bark and deny that this was Hunter Biden’s computer and these were Hunter Biden’s file.

One big difference between the legal and political worlds is that in the latter there is no protection for the right to remain silent. In politics, scandals can be managed but not silently.

Instead of these obvious barks, the public heard something closer to a whimper: that the campaign could not find any notation on Vice President Biden's official schedule that he met with a Ukrainian figure connected to the payments to his son Hunter Biden.

It would be a curious sight in itself for Biden’s official schedule to include “meeting with Ukrainian connected to Hunter.” Many meetings are not part of an official schedule that staffers know is subject to official records laws for preservation and review.

That is what is so curious about the Hunter Biden story and, to move from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle to Lewis Carroll, it is becoming “curiouser and curiouser.”

Another thing I like about Turley is he’s obviously well educated in literature lol.

Where else do you get a Sir Arthur Conan Doyle reference?

[BartenderElite]

Trump didn't run a good campaign in 2016. He insulted POW's. He insulted women. He had he Access Hollywood thing. But Comey bailed him out w/ the "Hillary email" thing, which ended up amounting to nothing.

Trump did a poor job in his 1st term. He failed in his response to the pandemic. And now you guys are hoping for the same bail-out w/ this lame laptop story? Seriously?

It's beyond desperation. I'm sorry the polls aren't working out for you. I'm sorry that Americans don't like your guy. But accept defeat w/ some dignity.

[Darth Omar]

Trump didn't run a good campaign in 2016. He insulted POW's. He insulted women. He had he Access Hollywood thing. But Comey bailed him out w/ the "Hillary email" thing, which ended up amounting to nothing.

Trump did a poor job in his 1st term. He failed in his response to the pandemic. And now you guys are hoping for the same bail-out w/ this lame laptop story? Seriously?

It's beyond desperation. I'm sorry the polls aren't working out for you. I'm sorry that Americans don't like your guy. But accept defeat w/ some dignity.

Can we have the election first, before we accept defeat lol?

Hillary insulted nearly half the country in 2016.

It’s going to be difficult to make this go away if the Biden camp doesn’t ‘start barking’ soon. If this is a Russian set up, Biden has a small flotilla of lawyers, so why isn’t Rudy being threatened with a lawsuit?

[BartenderElite]

Can we have the election first, before we accept defeat lol?

Hillary insulted nearly half the country in 2016.

It’s going to be difficult to make this go away if the Biden camp doesn’t ‘start barking’ soon. If this is a Russian set up, Biden has a small flotilla of lawyers, so why isn’t Rudy being threatened with a lawsuit?

The Biden camp is doing the right thing. Are you new to politics? They slap a suit on crazy Rudy, and this dominates the headlines for the next few weeks.

Just ignore the lunatic who was also a big cheerleader for the big "unmasking scandal." You remember THAT one, right? Why, just a few days ago, it became a major embarrassment for Trump, Rudy & Fox.

[Darth Omar]

The Biden camp is doing the right thing. Are you new to politics? They slap a suit on crazy Rudy, and this dominates the headlines for the next few weeks.

Just ignore the lunatic who was also a big cheerleader for the big "unmasking scandal." You remember THAT one, right? Why, just a few days ago, it became a major embarrassment for Trump, Rudy & Fox.

Not bad, as excuses go.

Is Biden counting on media help in ignoring it? Rhetorical question.

[BartenderElite]

Not bad, as excuses go.

Is Biden counting on media help in ignoring it? Rhetorical question.

Do you REALLY think there is anything here for a serious journalist to run a story on?

Rhetorical. There isn't. Not even close.

[Darth Omar]

Do you REALLY think there is anything here for a serious journalist to run a story on?

Rhetorical. There isn't. Not even close.

You’re declaring the story over lol? That’s not the way it works in Trump’s world. First the ‘story’ breaks; then it’s wall to wall coverage for the next three to four cycles before it peters out for lack of evidence.

Then it’s on to The Next One. Been that way for four years.

This is a case of the shoe being on the other foot and the timing couldn’t be more ironic.

[ExpressLane]

Even if the campaign cannot deny that the computer was Hunter Biden’s, it could deny that these incriminating pictures and emails were his.

Again, crickets.

Note that if these are fabricated emails or pictures, this would be a serious federal crime and the basis for legal action.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hunt...mpression=true
_______

Yes the link is Fox News, but Turley is a Democrat and an excellent *actual moderate* to follow for analysis.

And this is why I follow him: he typically has a different take on things. He’s not in Trump’s camp—not in Biden’s camp, so he bears listening to.

And he brings up a good point about the Biden camp ‘not barking’ when they should be barking. If Hunter Gate is fake news, then Rudy and some other people are left wide open for a defamation suit.

Nothing but crickets.

I agree with you about Turley. I saw him say he no longer considers himself to be a Democrat and he is now an Independent.

[BartenderElite]

You’re declaring the story over lol? That’s not the way it works in Trump’s world. First the ‘story’ breaks; then it’s wall to wall coverage for the next three to four cycles before it peters out for lack of evidence.

Then it’s on to The Next One. Been that way for four years.

This is a case of the shoe being on the other foot and the timing couldn’t be more ironic.

The shoe is on the same foot.

Did you miss unmasking? ObamaGate? The "biggest scandal of all time?"

It just ended earlier this week. Not even a day passed before this lameness presented itself.

[Darth Omar]

The shoe is on the same foot.

Did you miss unmasking? ObamaGate? The "biggest scandal of all time?"

It just ended earlier this week. Not even a day passed before this lameness presented itself.

Durham will have the last say on it.

Be patient. Or hope Biden wins so he can shut it down.

[ExpressLane]

Trump didn't run a good campaign in 2016. He insulted POW's. He insulted women. He had he Access Hollywood thing. But Comey bailed him out w/ the "Hillary email" thing, which ended up amounting to nothing.

Trump did a poor job in his 1st term. He failed in his response to the pandemic. And now you guys are hoping for the same bail-out w/ this lame laptop story? Seriously?

It's beyond desperation. I'm sorry the polls aren't working out for you. I'm sorry that Americans don't like your guy. But accept defeat w/ some dignity.

Comey did HRC a HUGE favor by not indicting her for mishandling classified government documents. Comey HAD to start a investigation for the emails on Wennie's laptop. The New York FBI office had it a month and was threatening to take that fact public. Even at that only a small portion of the emails were actually examined before Comey cleared her again.

[Darth Omar]

I agree with you about Turley. I saw him say he no longer considers himself to be a Democrat and he is now an Independent.

Voted for Hillary or so he said. I have no reason to doubt him.