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    Rapper Ice Cube once said he would never endorse Donald Trump. And though not an endorsement, the rapper is causing a stir this week for working with the President on his plan for Black America.

    Cube confirmed and defended his stance on Wednesday, tweeting that the Trump campaign made adjustments to "their plan" after talking to him about his Contract With Black America, a plan he released earlier this year to address racial inequality, while Democrats said they would wait until after the election.

    "Every side is the Darkside for us here in America," Ice Cube tweeted, while defending the work he's done with Trump. "They're all the same until something changes for us. They all lie and they all cheat but we can't afford not to negotiate with whoever is in power or our condition in this country will never change. Our justice is bipartisan."
    Dubbed the "Platinum Plan," Trump's plan for Black America includes initiatives like "neighborhoods with highest policing standards" and replacing "failing schools" with "full school choice."

    CNN reached out to representatives for the rapper for further comment, but was directed to watch his appearance with CNN's Chris Cuomo. A few hours later, Ice Cube, a former member of the group N.W.A., tweeted that the appearance was off.

    Still, Cube continued to defend his stance on Thursday, saying that he will "advise anyone on the planet who has the power to help Black Americans close the enormous wealth gap."

    On Tuesday, Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser for the President, tweeted that Cube helped develop Trump's "Platinum Plan."
    "Leaders gonna lead, haters gonna hate," she wrote on Twitter. "Thank you for leading!"

    In the midst of the controversy, prominent Black thinkers and activists have spoken against the rapper, arguing that Trump has never done anything to address racism or eradicate racial inequality, and is using the entertainer for his own image.
    Ibram X. Kendi, a professor known for his work on anti-racism, said the rapper is "lying to himself."
    "Before we talk truth to power, we must talk truth to ourselves. Cube is lying to himself that he can get Trump to deliver Black progress in exchange for Black votes when Trump hasn't brought progress for his own supporters. The process starts brother by talking truth to yourself," he wrote on Twitter.
    Brittney Cooper, a professor and author, slammed the rapper on Twitter, questioning when Ice Cube became a spokesman for Black America.
    "Who is Ice Cube that the Democratic Party would feel the need to talk to him about the broad political concerns of Black America? Is he a political leader or organizer? No."

    The rapper-turned-actor has been outspoken about racial injustice and White supremacy throughout his career.
    In July, he unveiled a 13-part plan called the "Contract with Black America," which included points such as police and prison reform and interest free loans for home ownership. Though he denounced Trump in 2016, he has said in recent months that he wants change regardless of the political party.

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    Ice Cube is now being called all kinds of racial slurs by democrats.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    Rapper Ice Cube once said he would never endorse Donald Trump. And though not an endorsement, the rapper is causing a stir this week for working with the President on his plan for Black America.

    Cube confirmed and defended his stance on Wednesday, tweeting that the Trump campaign made adjustments to "their plan" after talking to him about his Contract With Black America, a plan he released earlier this year to address racial inequality, while Democrats said they would wait until after the election.

    "Every side is the Darkside for us here in America," Ice Cube tweeted, while defending the work he's done with Trump. "They're all the same until something changes for us. They all lie and they all cheat but we can't afford not to negotiate with whoever is in power or our condition in this country will never change. Our justice is bipartisan."
    Dubbed the "Platinum Plan," Trump's plan for Black America includes initiatives like "neighborhoods with highest policing standards" and replacing "failing schools" with "full school choice."

    CNN reached out to representatives for the rapper for further comment, but was directed to watch his appearance with CNN's Chris Cuomo. A few hours later, Ice Cube, a former member of the group N.W.A., tweeted that the appearance was off.

    Still, Cube continued to defend his stance on Thursday, saying that he will "advise anyone on the planet who has the power to help Black Americans close the enormous wealth gap."

    On Tuesday, Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser for the President, tweeted that Cube helped develop Trump's "Platinum Plan."
    "Leaders gonna lead, haters gonna hate," she wrote on Twitter. "Thank you for leading!"

    In the midst of the controversy, prominent Black thinkers and activists have spoken against the rapper, arguing that Trump has never done anything to address racism or eradicate racial inequality, and is using the entertainer for his own image.
    Ibram X. Kendi, a professor known for his work on anti-racism, said the rapper is "lying to himself."
    "Before we talk truth to power, we must talk truth to ourselves. Cube is lying to himself that he can get Trump to deliver Black progress in exchange for Black votes when Trump hasn't brought progress for his own supporters. The process starts brother by talking truth to yourself," he wrote on Twitter.
    Brittney Cooper, a professor and author, slammed the rapper on Twitter, questioning when Ice Cube became a spokesman for Black America.
    "Who is Ice Cube that the Democratic Party would feel the need to talk to him about the broad political concerns of Black America? Is he a political leader or organizer? No."

    The rapper-turned-actor has been outspoken about racial injustice and White supremacy throughout his career.
    In July, he unveiled a 13-part plan called the "Contract with Black America," which included points such as police and prison reform and interest free loans for home ownership. Though he denounced Trump in 2016, he has said in recent months that he wants change regardless of the political party.

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    And now 50 Cent is a Trumper!

    Will Jungle Joe take away his Black Card, too?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    I've only seen a little of the contract but it's all about rooting out systemic racism, there's references to reparations and teaching anti-racism (ideology) in schools. It's not exactly a free market manifesto.

    I understand the political dynamics of Trump wanting to meeting with Ice Cube and being perceived to have support from him but as for the 'contract' itself I don't think many of the economic proposals align with conservative thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I've only seen a little of the contract but it's all about rooting out systemic racism, there's references to reparations and teaching anti-racism (ideology) in schools. It's not exactly a free market manifesto.

    I understand the political dynamics of Trump wanting to meeting with Ice Cube and being perceived to have support from him but as for the 'contract' itself I don't think many of the economic proposals align with conservative thought.
    Full school choice isn’t an economic proposal but it does align. Unfortunately lots of kids will choose low expectation schools .

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    Why work with the orange criminal? Trump won't keep his word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Why work with the orange criminal? Trump won't keep his word.
    Why did MLK and civil rights leaders work with those in power at the time? Because it's about getting results. Much harder to further your agenda when you refuse to.

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    50 Cent & Ice Cube voting for Trump to protect their hard-earned money. Everyone has their reasons. Voting against tax increases is one good one.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why did MLK and civil rights leaders work with those in power at the time? Because it's about getting results. Much harder to further your agenda when you refuse to.
    Yes, communicating is better than just pouting.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    Rapper Ice Cube once said he would never endorse Donald Trump. And though not an endorsement, the rapper is causing a stir this week for working with the President on his plan for Black America.

    Cube confirmed and defended his stance on Wednesday, tweeting that the Trump campaign made adjustments to "their plan" after talking to him about his Contract With Black America, a plan he released earlier this year to address racial inequality, while Democrats said they would wait until after the election.

    "Every side is the Darkside for us here in America," Ice Cube tweeted, while defending the work he's done with Trump. "They're all the same until something changes for us. They all lie and they all cheat but we can't afford not to negotiate with whoever is in power or our condition in this country will never change. Our justice is bipartisan."
    Dubbed the "Platinum Plan," Trump's plan for Black America includes initiatives like "neighborhoods with highest policing standards" and replacing "failing schools" with "full school choice."

    CNN reached out to representatives for the rapper for further comment, but was directed to watch his appearance with CNN's Chris Cuomo. A few hours later, Ice Cube, a former member of the group N.W.A., tweeted that the appearance was off.

    Still, Cube continued to defend his stance on Thursday, saying that he will "advise anyone on the planet who has the power to help Black Americans close the enormous wealth gap."

    On Tuesday, Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser for the President, tweeted that Cube helped develop Trump's "Platinum Plan."
    "Leaders gonna lead, haters gonna hate," she wrote on Twitter. "Thank you for leading!"

    In the midst of the controversy, prominent Black thinkers and activists have spoken against the rapper, arguing that Trump has never done anything to address racism or eradicate racial inequality, and is using the entertainer for his own image.
    Ibram X. Kendi, a professor known for his work on anti-racism, said the rapper is "lying to himself."
    "Before we talk truth to power, we must talk truth to ourselves. Cube is lying to himself that he can get Trump to deliver Black progress in exchange for Black votes when Trump hasn't brought progress for his own supporters. The process starts brother by talking truth to yourself," he wrote on Twitter.
    Brittney Cooper, a professor and author, slammed the rapper on Twitter, questioning when Ice Cube became a spokesman for Black America.
    "Who is Ice Cube that the Democratic Party would feel the need to talk to him about the broad political concerns of Black America? Is he a political leader or organizer? No."

    The rapper-turned-actor has been outspoken about racial injustice and White supremacy throughout his career.
    In July, he unveiled a 13-part plan called the "Contract with Black America," which included points such as police and prison reform and interest free loans for home ownership. Though he denounced Trump in 2016, he has said in recent months that he wants change regardless of the political party.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/us/ic...rnd/index.html
    So the black rapper is going with results instead of THE SAME OLD THING democrats have been selling blacks for a couple generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    So the black rapper is going with results instead of THE SAME OLD THING democrats have been selling blacks for a couple generations.
    I've been following this story a bit (being from Oakland and having a fair number of black friends/classmates this is getting a lot of discussion on social media). Ice Cube didn't come out and say he's pro-Trump. What he said is I have a plan for black people and I'm going to give it to both campaigns and want to discuss it with both campaigns.

    Ice Cube is right, he's saying both parties should compete for our (black people's) votes. He's also saying that even if you don't like Trump and think he's a racist it doesn't benefit us to not work with people in power to move our agenda forward.

    Part of Ice Cube's plan calls for various forms of reparations. We all know Trump is not driven by ideology so it might set the political world on fire if Trump agrees to some of Cube's demands in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I've been following this story a bit (being from Oakland and having a fair number of black friends/classmates this is getting a lot of discussion on social media). Ice Cube didn't come out and say he's pro-Trump. What he said is I have a plan for black people and I'm going to give it to both campaigns and want to discuss it with both campaigns.

    Ice Cube is right, he's saying both parties should compete for our (black people's) votes. He's also saying that even if you don't like Trump and think he's a racist it doesn't benefit us to not work with people in power to move our agenda forward.

    Part of Ice Cube's plan calls for various forms of reparations. We all know Trump is not driven by ideology so it might set the political world on fire if Trump agrees to some of Cube's demands in that regard.
    Ordinarily, I would rebel at that form of pandering but given the nature of what’s at stake in this election—I’ll put it on hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Part of Ice Cube's plan calls for various forms of reparations. We all know Trump is not driven by ideology so it might set the political world on fire if Trump agrees to some of Cube's demands in that regard.
    Can you be specific about what forms of reparations?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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