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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Writing on political forums is a religion.
    No, it's just writing. Buzzword fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    There is no question Paul was inspired by Jesus, and experienced some sort of epiphany. That passes the sniff test for historicity. Whether Jesus was a human prophet, a divine being, or something in between is an open question not available to historical analysis
    yes. a matter of faith.
    the miracles seem to have some accuracy,but are anecdotals events that cannot be verifies except thru the Gospels

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    yes. a matter of faith.
    the miracles seem to have some accuracy,but are anecdotals events that cannot be verifies except thru the Gospels
    I believe a lot of the accounts of miracles performed are apocryphal or metaphorical. The story about Jesus and the prostitute in John did not even exist in the NT until the middle ages.

    The noteworthy thing to me, is the NT gives a sense that Jesus was inspirational and was a moral teacher for a lot of people in the first century. His message of salvation and spiritual equality was truly radical for the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I believe a lot of the accounts of miracles performed are apocryphal or metaphorical. The story about Jesus and the prostitute in John did not even exist in the NT until the middle ages.

    The noteworthy thing to me, is the NT gives a sense that Jesus was inspirational and was a moral teacher for a lot of people in the first century. His message of salvation and spiritual equality was truly radical for the time.
    The raising of Lazarus is one that has multiple references in Gospels, and was a main factor in driving the crowds for Palm Sunday

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_of_Bethany
    The miracle of the raising of Lazarus, the longest coherent narrative in John aside from the Passion, is the culmination of John's "signs". It explains the crowds seeking Jesus on Palm Sunday, and leads directly to the decision of Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin to kill Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I would have thought farm animals were more to your taste.
    That's what he means when he says "farm/ranch girls"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    That's what he means when he says "farm/ranch girls"...
    LOL. Thanks for the additional evidence you are not a Christian or a truth-teller. Most already know that as fact, but it's always nice of you to confirm it INT/IBDa/gfm
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    nigger, nigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    The raising of Lazarus is one that has multiple references in Gospels, and was a main factor in driving the crowds for Palm Sunday

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_of_Bethany
    The miracle of the raising of Lazarus, the longest coherent narrative in John aside from the Passion, is the culmination of John's "signs". It explains the crowds seeking Jesus on Palm Sunday, and leads directly to the decision of Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin to kill Jesus.
    You seem to know much more & clearer than I would have believed.

    I guess those Nuns didn't waste their energy whacking you w/ that ruler a time or two.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Donald Trump, despite his imperfections, will be the most left-leaning Republican president of all time.

    Bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Bizarre.
    Yeah, except for the fact that I never posted that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Yeah, except for the fact that I never posted that.
    double bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo eto View Post
    I think the chances that Jesus didn't exist are about zero.
    Of course "Jesus" was a common name (well, in the language of the time).

    Today Jesús is extremely common.


    Quote Originally Posted by iolo eto View Post
    What you have in the 'States is very far from that.
    Interesting. Who owns the correct Christianity?
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Of course "Jesus" was a common name (well, in the language of the time).

    Today Jesús is extremely common.



    Interesting. Who owns the correct Christianity?
    Nobody owns Christianity: the trick is to read the New Testament, especially the Sermon on the Mount and see how particular groups' actions and beliefs compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    Of course ....
    Interesting. Who owns the correct Christianity?
    So another election to continue SCOTUS Rehnquist's Christian Nation Reichquest since Bicentennial fabricated misnomer immaculate drug conceptions granting standing to that "serve the Pope or die" from Islam "death to the infidels" diatribe of one must vote after an acknowledgement of thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament - absentee voting ballots arsonists lynching enforcement dhimmitude servitude precedent for those burning Bush's 9/11 Arab health care plan where Mengele "Angel of Death" baptize thine eyes by urinations to one of Eisenhower's WW II Pentagon staff sergeants acknowledged as not an Arab flying carpet terrorist Freudian slip to maintain survival of the fittest fascists suicidal sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming master race condescending arrogance as one nation under God with equal justice under law Christiananality pedophilia cognitive dissonance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Nobody owns Christianity: the trick is to read the New Testament, especially the Sermon on the Mount and see how particular groups' actions and beliefs compare.
    I presume that the trick includes a critical final step of drawing conclusions, yes? What are the conclusions that you drew when you performed the trick?
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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