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    Jesus was a profoundly revolutionary figure who cared nothing for wealth and power, and whose followers shared all they had. Naturally, like everyone at that time, he expressed his opinions in terms of a 'God'. The Imperialists executed him, as would their present American or Chinese equivalents, but something happened to convince his followers that didn't matter. I find that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    You seem to know much more & clearer than I would have believed.
    I guess those Nuns didn't waste their energy whacking you w/ that ruler a time or two.....
    sure. growing up Catholic taught me a thing or 2.
    But comparative religious study helps flesh out the perspectives beyond rote learning.
    You learn to look for themes and similarities, as well as sharp differences in the world's religions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Jesus was a profoundly revolutionary figure who cared nothing for wealth and power, and whose followers shared all they had. Naturally, like everyone at that time, he expressed his opinions in terms of a 'God'. The Imperialists executed him, as would their present American or Chinese equivalents, but something happened to convince his followers that didn't matter. I find that interesting.
    Sharing and using the government force people to do something aren't the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    sure. growing up Catholic taught me a thing or 2.
    But comparative religious study helps flesh out the perspectives beyond rote learning.
    You learn to look for themes and similarities, as well as sharp differences in the world's religions
    Yes, there is a name for that.........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yes, there is a name for that.........
    It's like a Monopoly get out of jail free card where invoking that fabricated misnomer immaculate Jesus the Christ conception in SCOTUS Christian Nation renders those burning Bush's 9/11 "serve the Pope or die" from Islam "death to the infidels" granted patriot act standing higher than one nation under God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I believe
    there you go then.......you have your beliefs.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yes, there is a name for that.........
    curiosity? lol
    what first got me interested was the philosophical idea:
    "if these are good people -but not Christian -can the be saved"? (salvation)

    which opened up my mind to understanding what they believe and how they act. and then comparing world religions

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydancin View Post
    It's like a Monopoly get out of jail free card where invoking that fabricated misnomer immaculate Jesus the Christ conception in SCOTUS Christian Nation renders those burning Bush's 9/11 "serve the Pope or die" from Islam "death to the infidels" granted patriot act standing higher than one nation under God.
    That is not it but that about sums up our new century is a fart beat.............
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    curiosity? lol
    what first got me interested was the philosophical idea:
    "if these are good people -but not Christian -can the be saved"? (salvation)

    which opened up my mind to understanding what they believe and how they act. and then comparing world religions
    Religious studies~comparative religion..

    Yes, that is one of those questions that trouble many..

    We all know ppl that are far better ppl than most, & are not Christian, although their "actions" are in line w/ the moral/ethical teaching & tenets of love etc......

    Something often missing in the politicized hearts of pampered posers...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there you go then.......you have your beliefs.......
    I have a range of beliefs, speculations, educated guesses. Not sure what is controversial about that.
    While I consider some of the miraculous deeds of Jesus in the Gospels to probably be apocryphal or allegorical, I can still maintain there is a certain kernel of historicity to the NT and that as a scripture it contains higher truths acquired by genuine inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I have a range of beliefs, speculations, educated guesses. Not sure what is controversial about that.
    While I consider some of the miraculous deeds of Jesus in the Gospels to probably be apocryphal or allegorical, I can still maintain there is a certain kernel of historicity to the NT and that as a scripture it contains higher truths acquired by genuine inspiration.
    Belief does not make something true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    It's been obliterated by scholars for over a hundred years. We know that Jesus himself is most likely pure myth.
    The Bible is the word of God therefore I believe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Religious studies~comparative religion..

    Yes, that is one of those questions that trouble many..

    We all know ppl that are far better ppl than most, & are not Christian, although their "actions" are in line w/ the moral/ethical teaching & tenets of love etc......

    Something often missing in the politicized hearts of pampered posers...
    it's a troubling conundrum for those familiar with revealed religions. Jesus did call on us to believe as well as practice.

    For myself at least - who is still attuned to Christianity, while simply finding Buddhism more "helpful"
    in day to day life..well I can't work it all out evenly.

    My heart belongs to Jesus, but my mind is bodi (Buddhist practices ).
    and that's how i've left it for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Belief does not make something true.
    I did not say it did.
    It is a matter of belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I did not say it did.
    Nor did I say you did. Sometimes people say things and don't say them to be contentious. It's called discussion.

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