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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    An excellent position which I support 100%.
    I am a consensus builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Up is up. Down is down. Around the world. We'll never come down.
    Just playing devil's advocate.

    What we percieve as up and down is the curvature of space-time.

    In a strictly vector-based geometric context, down is the opposite of up for a person in the USA compared to a person in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Just playing devil's advocate.

    What we percieve as up and down is the curvature of space-time.

    In a strictly vector-based sense, down is the opposite of up for a person in the USA compared to a person in China.
    Yes. I was referring more to linguistics. "Up" is not "down." But....whole thing was a humorous diversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    I am a consensus builder.
    If true, it needs more work.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    If true, it needs more work.
    Oh, I meant I am a census builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Up is not down.
    and you are not up....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Quantum physics shows us.....
    that some people can be convinced of anything.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Up is up. Down is down. Around the world. We'll never come down.
    if you elect Biden we will never go up......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by votebiden View Post
    Oh, I meant I am a census builder.
    I already mailed mine in.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there you go then.......you have your beliefs.......
    No doubt the patriot act continuing this Christian Nation SCOTUS precedent fabricated misnomer of Jesus the Christ Mengele " Angel of Death " belief for Rehnquist's Christiananality pedophilia national religion Reichquest where acknowledging thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament - absentee voting ballots arsonists with immaculate drug conceptions granting standing as if election intimidation & vote fixing is little more than a "man is God" Nazi economics joke of no significance in survival of the fittest fascists as Arab Islam "death to the infidels" suicidal sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming condescending arrogance making the cross with it's lynching enforcement higher than the flag. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yes.. I don't see how we could believe or even assume we would be capable of fully understanding.I have come to think of it, poorly, as if we were all in a big room & had a vile w/ an ant in it..
    We could pass it around the room to each other, the ant fully incapable of not only understanding her own predicament but ours as well.
    Thoughts, emotions, forethought, even sight-seeing us in our entirety unfathomable..
    true.
    It's enough we know we are not the be all and end all of the universe though.

    I try to focus on the teaching.
    Christianity is heavy on love and compassion - it's also why I reject Islam- none of that.

    Buddhism teaches how to end one's suffering by a perspective of "everything is impermanent"
    and to stop clinging (attachment) to illusions of permanence

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    I still have a few reservations regarding Islam, & more particularly some of the adherents..

    My next door neighbor is Muslim & a great decent guy.. Before he moved here permanently from Doha he rented the place & there were two different families renting over that time-all great ppl........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I still have a few reservations regarding Islam, & more particularly some of the adherents..

    My next door neighbor is Muslim & a great decent guy.. Before he moved here permanently from Doha he rented the place & there were two different families renting over that time-all great ppl........
    yep . a couple up the pool are from Syria ( Damascus area near Lebanon) and she from the UAE.
    They are the nicest.. and they listen to my Libya ramblings !!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I still have a few reservations regarding Islam, & more particularly some of the adherents..

    My next door neighbor is Muslim & a great decent guy.. Before he moved here permanently from Doha he rented the place & there were two different families renting over that time-all great ppl........
    My theory is that the West's lingering and historic apprehension of Muslims goes back 600 years, and has nothing to do with Arabs of the Near East, Persian Gulf, and North Africa.

    It has everything to do with the Europeans being terrified of the Ottoman Turks, and the savage warrior ethos of the central Asian Turkic tribes of the steppes. Ottoman Turk expansion into Europe left a vivid cultural impression in the West's collective consciousness of the militarism and supposed unbounded cruelty of the Turkic-speaking "barbarians" from the central Asian steppes.

    I still believe there is a lingering cultural residue in the consciousness of western civilization regarding the cruel Turkic barbarians steppe tribes.

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    I'm sure the bombing of school buses in Israel had nothing to do with it......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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