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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Smartest move you ever made not showing up.

    You're not mocking me. You're proving you're a stupid goddamn nigger.
    Why do you hate yourself for having married a nigger who whore you out at biker parties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Why do you hate yourself for having married a nigger who whore you out at biker parties?

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    More proof you're a stupid goddamn nigger. Only someone that is would continue to feel the need to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ????.....it came to fulfillment three DAYS after his death.......
    Christ's historical significance was even BEFORE his death. His teachings alone have made a great difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    More proof you're a stupid goddamn nigger. Only someone that is would continue to feel the need to prove it.
    Why do you hate yourself for having married a nigger who whores you out at biker parties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Why do you hate yourself for having married a nigger who whores you out at biker parties?

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    And more proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    And more proof.
    Yet more proof you hate yourself for being a nigger, nigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Yet more proof you hate yourself for being a nigger, nigger.
    Stay hidden and stay safe. It's your best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Stay hidden and stay safe. It's your best option.
    et more proof you hate yourself for being a nigger, nigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You would likely never have heard of Christianity or Jesus without Paul's missionary work to the Gentile communities, or without Constantine deciding to give the Empire's blessing to a minor and fairly obscure religion.

    Without Paul and Constantine, Christianity might well have remained an obscure and tiny sect of Judaism and might have faded away with time.

    That is what I meant that in the context of history, Jesus would never have been of profound historical influence without Paul and Constantine, and the events surrounding them over the course of three centuries.
    Yes, Paul's contribution was great, but he would've been nowhere without Jesus Christ and his teachings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I accept your tacit admission that the profound historical importance of Jesus ultimately depended on the outcome of events involving Saint Paul and Constantine, decades and centuries after his crucifixion
    Reversal fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    The fear of dying has us seeing the "Great Njght" approaching.. our hardwired brains seek to find something that it "knows" is there, even if our minds know it isn't likely.
    Psychoquackery. Very little is 'hardwired'. The brain has to pretty much learn everything, even the autonomic system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Unfortunately, you have exactly zero tangible evidence that God had anything to do with Paul and Constantine.
    The Bible. That is tangible evidence. You just reject it.
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    What the historical record shows is that without Paul and Constantine, the Gentiles and the Empire would barely have ever been aware of Jesus, of the obscure subsect of Judaism he led, or the religion based on him.

    I would say your garden variety Roman citizen never even heard about Jesus until about three centuries after his death.

    Which speaks to my insight about Jesus not being a profound part of history until centuries after his death, and his historical legacy depended on the efforts and decisions of other important Roman citizens
    Reversal fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Scholars seem to think that illiteracy rates in the Jewish world of the first century was about 98 percent.

    As a historical fact, it seems highly unlikely that a child born to peasants, in a tiny village in the obscure backwater province of Galilee would have went to school or been thoroughly trained to read and write. He purportedly trained to be a woodworker.

    Anything is possible, we will never know with any certainty. To me, it does not matter if he was literate or not. He obviously had a message and a charisma that appealed to people. I merely was pointing out that a person of such lowly standing in the eyes of the Roman authorities would not have inspired them to keep and maintain written records about Jesus
    Yet they did. Paul was a Roman. He was born in Tarsus, part of the Roman empire at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Bible. That is tangible evidence. You just reject it.
    Appeal to authority fallacy, 12c subsection IIIa

    The bible has to be critically assessed for historicity like all ancient literature, Ilyiad, Beowulf, Baghavad Gita, et al.

    Reversal fallacy.
    Poisoning the well fallacy 8b, section 14

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