^^ Here is the original and laughable claim.
Plato wrote three entire dialogues about the trial and death of Socrates which spoke to ethics, morality, the meaning of life, and sacrifice for a higher principle.
Ethics and Sacrifice in the Greco-Roman Tradition:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...75#post3983975
There really doesn't need to be one.
Nope. During the so-called Dark Ages, religion retreated into monasteries built like fortifications, to keep the rot OUT. Most people at the time were quite atheist, even approaching savagery. Few traveled the old Roman roads in those days. Too dangerous.
This same religion gave us astronomy, some advances in chemistry, better clocks, our form of writing, rescued a lot of Greek culture and science from the effects of the Dark Ages, and had some of the most notable artwork and water gardens in the world at the time.
Islam is not the problem. Dictatorships are. Dictatorships that hijack a religion as their excuse for being dictators are particularly a problem.
Because of the dictatorships, not because of Islam.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
WRONG. The Catholic Church threatened to torture Galileo.
Torture actually has a procedure. First, the victim is threatened with torture. If they do not comply, the victim is taken into a room and shown the instruments to be used to conduct the torture. If they still do not comply, a professional wielding these instruments would conduct the torture, usually publicly. If the victim STILL does not comply, then, and only then, is the victim put to death.
For Galileo, a man well aware of the capability of such instruments of torture and what they could do, complied at the mere threat of torture. He did not need to recant his publication, was required to state the Church was the highest authority, and was placed under house arrest for the rest of his days and did not go against the Church again.
Others within the Catholic Church, inspired by Galileo and others like him, began to question the scripture as interpreted by the Church. Even priests, cardinals, and bishops were raising questions. THAT was when the Pope invented the Inquisition. Very nasty stuff. THAT was a stain on the Church.
Out of it came Lutheranism, the Church being forced to recognize science at least on some level, and a few more atheists. Christianity fractured into a chaos of different religions, each enhancing some aspects of the gospel and tending to discard the rest.
But God and Christ are not the authors of chaos. How will this resolve?
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Not everybody needs to. Christ has promised resurrection for others as well. So far there is no public event of it ever happening yet.
A hard thing to do, since not having an opinion on the matter leaves a void.
But this is theism.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Bingo.
Again, you are very observant here. Kudos. They do, however, try to force others to believe as part of their fundamentalism. Such people are often about controlling others, leading right down the rotten road of the Church of Karl Marx, and all of the religions it has spawned, including the Church of Green (where veganism resides), the Church of Global Warming, and the Church of Covid. All of these religions are fundamentalist in nature. All of them are out to control others. Several of them are seeking to become state religions.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
Indeed. The problem the Catholics had with Galileo was not that they disagreed with him, but that they wanted to be the ones to mete out this information to the people in their own way, as final authority of God's will. Galileo told them to get lost and published anyway. THAT was when the conflict started.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
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