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    Default Biden: Lower Medicare Age From 65 To 60: YES!

    "Presidential candidate Joe Biden wants to lower the eligibility age for Medicare to 60 from 65."

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    What a perfect time to do it, when many older Americans are leaving the workforce because they don't want to stay on and risk getting COVID-19. They face a desperate choice: Stay in the workforce for health insurance, and risk possible exposure ot COVID-19, or take early retirement without health insurance, and have the ability to social distance more effectively.

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    "He also pointed out that Biden wants to create a public health insurance option and expand access to coverage through the health-care exchanges. Those options could end up being better for those folks than Medicare, he said.

    Separately, Biden wants Medicare to cover dental, vision and hearing, all of which are currently excluded. For that, beneficiaries can sign up for a Medicare Advantage Plan, which may provide some coverage.
    Lower prescription drug costs

    Biden also wants to reduce what Medicare beneficiaries pay for prescription drugs, notably by allowing the government to negotiate those prices — which is prohibited by law currently. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated such a move would save $456 billion from 2023 through 2029 (based on a House bill that would make the change).

    At the same time, though, the budget office report noted that negative effects may include reduced spending on research and development.

    Biden also would prohibit most drug prices from rising faster than inflation. "

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    And he wants to raise taxes on the super-rich to pay for it.

    But only the super-rich. Actually a lot of very rich people, and everyone else, would still see no increase. Biden says everyone making $400,000 or less would not see their taxes raised.
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    It's not Medicare for all.

    It's Medicare for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It's not Medicare for all.

    It's Medicare for more.
    No, its not Med4All and it should be but we know why it's not. The USA is so screwed up.
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    Did Shaky Joe's handlers tell him how it's supposed to be paid for?

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    Hello Cinnabar,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    No, its not Med4All and it should be but we know why it's not. The USA is so screwed up.
    It's a small step in the correct direction.

    Baby steps are easier to take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Did Shaky Joe's handlers tell him how it's supposed to be paid for?
    they told him he would have to vote for higher taxes in the senate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    they told him he would have to vote for higher taxes in the senate....
    Seems plausible, given his campaign speech today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapo View Post
    No, its not Med4All and it should be but we know why it's not.
    Why should it be, and why isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kapo View Post
    The USA is so screwed up.
    Yet here you are, supposedly.

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    Considering the fake president tRump and his sold out republican goons are plotting on destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to offset their act of looting taxpayer money in order to give their rich and wealthy butt lickers hefty tax breaks, while breaking the back of the working, middle class, seniors and the disabled regardless if they are democrat, republican, independents or non political. This includes the taxpayer who worked many years and earned their taxpayer paid security, I think what former senator and two term vice president Joe Biden and Senator Harris advocate at protecting taxpayer earned retirement and healthcare benefits is the better option versus the drop dead option of the lawlessly hacked in tRump insurgency from hell:

    How Kamala Harris Helps Biden’s ‘Medicare At 60’ Plan

    Joe Biden’s pick of Sen. Kamala Harris as his Vice Presidential running mate on the Democratic party’s ticket to challenge Donald Trump for the White House should bolster the former vice president’s Medicare expansion proposal.

    Biden is proposing to allow Americans between the ages of 60 and 64 the option of buying into Medicare, the federal health insurance program for the elderly. The proposal is considered less costly than earlier versions proposed by Democrats in the U.S. Senate to lower Medicare eligibility to as young as 55 or even 50."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja.../#46c6c6ca6a26
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Cinnabar,



    It's a small step in the correct direction.

    Baby steps are easier to take.
    But the underlying reason why there is a need for baby steps must be addressed as the reason has zero to do with the wants and needs of the majority of the people. That is not representative government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Joe Biden’s pick of Sen. Kamala Harris as his Vice Presidential running mate on the Democratic party’s ticket to challenge Donald Trump for the White House should bolster the former vice president’s Medicare expansion proposal. Biden is proposing to allow Americans between the ages of 60 and 64 the option of buying into Medicare, the federal health insurance program for the elderly. The proposal is considered less costly than earlier versions proposed by Democrats in the U.S. Senate to lower Medicare eligibility to as young as 55 or even 50."
    You "forgot" to cite this text from the same article you quoted:

    "Some in their mid 50s and early 60s who didn’t get the ACA's subsidies got socked with higher premiums as the ACA’s individual coverage, also known as Obamacare, went through a period of instability a couple of years ago in part because some insurers couldn’t manage costs of all of the sick patients buying coverage. Analysts say individual coverage under the ACA remains expensive for those unable to get a subsidy".

    Tell me, wasn't Obamacare rammed through Congress by the same pack of DEMOCRATS who now promise to fix what they alone fucked up?

    I have another question: if an older person can afford to "buy into" Medicare, why can't they afford Obamacare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapo View Post
    But the underlying reason why there is a need for baby steps must be addressed as the reason has zero to do with the wants and needs of the majority of the people. That is not representative government.
    Maybe you don't understand how a representative republic works, Kapo.

    The USA isn't governed by Twitter polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It's not Medicare for all.

    It's Medicare for more.
    Or, the frog slowly boils to death, or the death of a thousand paper cuts, or... Well, you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Or, the frog slowly boils to death, or the death of a thousand paper cuts, or... Well, you get the idea.
    you are still sucking the govt teat with Tricare
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    you are still sucking the govt teat with Tricare
    I don't use Tricare. I could but I don't. The one thing I did use it for was a dental plan but they dropped that for the 2020 open season so it's no longer an option.

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