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[CFM]

So I understand that's the lie you tell, but if that was true, you wouldn't be criticizing Kamala for her sex life. Conservatives hate women who have casual sex, which is why you're against abortion. If you just didn't agree with Kamala's politics, then that's what you'd criticize her for.

Calling her a whore and knowing that she isn't qualified based on her gender/skin color are two different things.

I'm against abortion because it's killing an innocent life. To say what you say would mean the only women having abortions are those that get pregnant from casual sex then don't want what that choice produced.

If you thought she was qualified based on her beliefs and what she's done, you wouldn't defend her when someone calls her the whore she is.

[StoneByStone]

I'm against abortion because it's killing an innocent life.

[StoneByStone]

Fair enough. My criticisms of her have always been with respect to her lack of principles. She doesn't seem to really believe in anything other than accumulating power.

Yeah, she's kind of a typical politician. I do think she has some principles and does want to help, but she'll sell out some of her principles to gain power.

[Saudade]

True, but the Republicans have put Democrats in a situation where they have no choice. Right now the Republicans keep cheating, while the Democrats just keep following the rules, hoping somehow they'll still win. I hope if Biden wins, he actually does fight fire with fire.
I'm fine with cheating to beat Fascism.

Well, I appreciate your honesty. You at least admit that you've reached the point where you're ok with cheating. You've only reached that point by mistakenly assuming that the Republicans are cheating. There is no cheating by filling vacancies.

Cheating would be creating fake votes, but Democrats have been experts at that for decades, particularly in Chicago.

And what exactly would be their argument? The Soviet Union was left-wing because, even though it didn't have Socialism, they used the word?
By that logic, we'd have to say North Korea is a Republic.

The argument is that Tsarists were the right wing and that Bolsheviks were the left wing. But again, you so narrowly define the left that it's going to distort any conversation we have on this. We might as well just do the Antifa thing and have you call everyone you disagree with a fascist.

It was actually in the forties. But even in the fifties, the rich paid more in taxes than they do now.

Sure, but they also had fewer places to move money. America was the most desirable place to invest in back then. The same can't be said today.

More taxes means less money they have to bribe politicians like Trump admitted he did all the time.
The working-class would also have more money in order to promote working-class politics.

Well, until they leave or just hide more of their money.

The ACA was still a big improvement. It just didn't go far enough because Obama wanted a market solution.

It was an improvement for only a small portion of the population -- people with low income that were unhealthy. Everyone else got screwed.

[CFM]

What crime did that innocent life commit?

[StoneByStone]

What crime did that innocent life commit?

Personally, I don't believe a clump of cells is a living thing. Maybe you do, but if you cared about children, then you would support welfare policies that help kids born into poverty as well as gun control that protects kids from getting shot in school.
You only support banning abortion because it punishes women for having sex.

[StoneByStone]

Well, I appreciate your honesty. You at least admit that you've reached the point where you're ok with cheating. You've only reached that point by mistakenly assuming that the Republicans are cheating. There is no cheating by filling vacancies.

It's cheating when you change your views on filing vacancies based on who is president at the time. The Republicans also didn't remove Trump when he was caught trying to cheat with the Ukraine scandal, haven't condemned him for encouraging voter fraud, haven't condemned him for calling for voter intimidation, and appear to be going along with his plan to have mail-in ballots thrown out to steal the election.

One of the problems with Liberals is that they don't understand the history of Conservatism, so they think that both sides are arguing over how best to run our Republic. But the Republicans, despite their name, are opposed to Democracy. So if you're going to play by the rules when dealing with Republicans, you're handicapping yourself.

The argument is that Tsarists were the right wing and that Bolsheviks were the left wing. But again, you so narrowly define the left that it's going to distort any conversation we have on this. We might as well just do the Antifa thing and have you call everyone you disagree with a fascist.

Serious question, do you know where the terms left-wing and right-wing come from?
There's no shame in saying no because like 90% of Americans don't know either.

[IBDaMann]

I wonder if this is the first American election where the people running for president are just barely alive.

That only applies to Death's-Doorstep Biden.

Trump is in excellent health and is immune to COVID-19

Pence and Kamala might be the most important VP candidates in American history,

Neither will get a chance 2BDaPrez over the next four years. Trump will be elected and will coast through his second term in great health. Pence can be President over the following four.

[StoneByStone]

That only applies to Death's-Doorstep Biden.

After that first debate, I'm pretty sure Trump is brain dead.

[Matt Dillon]

Personally, I don't believe a clump of cells is a living thing. Maybe you do, but if you cared about children, then you would support welfare policies that help kids born into poverty as well as gun control that protects kids from getting shot in school.
You only support banning abortion because it punishes women for having sex.

Oh! Such teh moral high ground for advocating killing of innocent children in the womb.
That's shit's macabre and wrong.

[IBDaMann]

After that first debate, I'm pretty sure Trump is brain dead.

... but enough about you, your lack of perception and your poor judgement.

Trump can remember what sentence he's on.

Soon, Biden won't even be able to remember which consecutive 15-year sentence he's on.

[StoneByStone]

Oh! Such teh moral high ground for advocating killing of innocent children in the womb.
That's shit's macabre and wrong.

So you also support welfare policies that help poor parents feed their kids, right?

[Matt Dillon]

So you also support welfare policies that help poor parents feed their kids, right?

I help the local food bank and church home for unwed mothers. Ever hear about that?

I do not advocate ne'er do wells for having babies they use to get money, no. Or women that play the child suppoert game with 5 different baby's daddies n stuff.
I've seen quite a bit in my life, girl.
One pretty girl with 4 different baby daddys rather disgusted me when I was 23.
She cheated her children out of some good fathers in the name of "Women's lib" and "not wanting to work".

[Bill]

I help the local food bank and church home for unwed mothers. Ever hear about that?

Thank you Matt....hats-off-salute-smiley-emoticon.gif

[Matt Dillon]

Thank you Matt....hats-off-salute-smiley-emoticon.gif

Both are run by a local church. NOT the government.

I know most of the people there.