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Ill bet this pisses off some Hillary haters!
On a congressional trip to Estonia, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest!
Delighted, the leader of the overseas delegation, Sen. John McCain, quickly agreed, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Saturday.
The after-dinner game went so well -- memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much -- that McCain later told people how unexpectedly fun he found Clinton to be.
TIMES reporter Anne Kornblut has filed a story on the curious relationship between Hillary and John McCain.
"One of the guys," is the way McCain describes her.
Clinton and McCain have developed an amiable relationship. They worked together, both on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. But as the 2008 presidential campaign begins to take shape, with McCain and Clinton at the top of the polls for their parties' nominations, they are increasingly doing things that underscore their differences.
"But the interplay between the two senators -- both celebrities, both self-styled centrists, both with compelling personal narratives and a knack for infuriating their own parties' bases -- remains intriguing as they navigate the early phase of a presidential race with an eye toward conceivably running against one another."
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Why? Most who hate Hillary believe that McCain is some sort of RINO. Personally I think McCain is a "Western Republican" or one who leans more libertarian rather than socially conservative.
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Originally Posted by Damocles
I agreed with you about McCain untill more reciently when he made nice nice with Pat Robertson and Liberty University... and has made some socially conservative remrakes lately.
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Looking to set the base for 2008. Politics get some people to say things that are not evident in their actions. Otherwise you could convince me that Bush actually is Conservative...
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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Anyone even willing to pretend to be nice nice with the RR has lost my vote.
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I don't think he ever had it there, Jarod.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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I considered McCain when I thought he was a social liberal... If it were he v. say Hillary Clinton I would have seriously considered him... Had he taken on the RR.
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McCain is an old guy, I hope he had his Viagra for his party with Hillary.
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Mcain's trying to get close to the leadhorse and thourhoughbred leader. You can tell he's still smarting under his double jaw over the loss to what he feels is the far less intellectual Bush.
Hillary is far more than his match in a battle of wits.
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I always considered Mccain to be the true torch carrier of the Reagan legacy. Its just that he will be so frickin old come 2008. Reagan was 69 when first elected... If Mccain were to become President he will be 73 when he takes the oath. Chances are.. if Mccain is elected we may end up with President Gullianni.
""Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington "
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McCain should have been the nominee in 2000. But now, he'll be too old, as you say. His age will be a huge liability in his campaing. In my opinion, he's unelectable due to this one thing. Besides, he's a bit of a hack, has shown such, and will have a very hard time with the spazzy paranoid base.
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The NeoCons have spent the past 8 years redefining him from Western Republican to RINO...
Too many of the R Limbaugh listeners have been convinced for 8 years that he is not Conservative... No way would he get the nomination. Now Giuliani, he's been backgrounded, everybody still remembers him from 9/11... He's got a real shot.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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Yeah, the Limbaugh and Hannity listeners have been bombarded with a bunch of garbage, crap if you will, that places the Conservative ideology under the Republican umbrella. In other words, you can't really be a conservative without being a Republican first. In reality, you and I both know that the two are from different farms, and the farm on which Limbaugh relies for his sustenence has been growing chaff.
I see this confusion all the time. Republican = Conservative. (LOL)
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