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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Uh I did provide a partial transcript.
    uuh, you had to scroll past a bunch of bullshit lies and partisan hack rants to get to anything resembling a transcript - and that one isn't even accurate

    but I think you have proven who you are here. I don't share links that are so vile with lies - you do - often - and proudly

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    Why are some people so angry? I have never seen them this angry since last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    uuh, you had to scroll past a bunch of bullshit lies and partisan hack rants to get to anything resembling a transcript - and that one isn't even accurate

    but I think you have proven who you are here. I don't share links that are so vile with lies - you do - often
    What is not accurate? I provided a link showing that Biden said that the FBI director said Antifa was an idea (ideology).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why are some people so angry? I have never seen them this angry since last night.
    just wait shit stain

    as the squads influence grows, the anger will too

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    What is not accurate? I provided a link showing that Biden said that the FBI director said Antifa was an idea (ideology).
    hey weasle boy - are you now saying the Proud Boys is a white supremacist group?

    debating with you is like stapling jello to the wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    hey weasle boy - are you now saying the Proud Boys is a white supremacist group?

    debating with you is like stapling jello to the wall
    I don't know much about the Proud Boys to comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I don't know much about the Proud Boys to comment.
    yet you are fine posting a link where the first several paragraphs and the point of the article you post is to say it is such a thing

    do you often go around posting derogatory things when you don't know much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Did he really say that?

    I can’t find the clip.
    Yup. They're all just a pack of wild ideologies trespassing, burning, looting, destroying, injuring and killing people.

    At time mark 1:53:33






    Extremism, Terrorism & Bigotry
    Free Speech
    Who are Antifa?

    These violent counter-protesters are often part of “antifa” (short for “antifascist”), a loose collection of groups, networks and individuals who believe in active, aggressive opposition to far right-wing movements.
    https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...who-are-antifa

    *******

    Then we get FBI guy Wray with double-speak. C'mon Chris......every group made up of human activists are promoting an "idea". It's the humans that put their "ideas" into action.
    Therefore their group/organization gets a name. In this case it's Antifa.

    "Wray did not dispute in his testimony Thursday that antifa activists were a serious concern, saying that antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with antifa."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Well, he did say that.

    Presidential Debate: Joe Biden Says Antifa is 'An Idea, Not An ...
    www.nationalreview.com › news › biden-says-antifa-is-...
    9 hours ago - The comments came after President Trump said someone should “do something” about the anti-fascist movement, saying far-left anarchists are

    He was quoting Christopher Wray, Mr. Earl.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Thursday that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, delivering testimony that puts him at odds with President Donald Trump, who has said he would designate it a terror group...

    Wray did not dispute in his testimony Thursday that antifa activists were a serious concern, saying that antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with antifa.

    But, he said, “It’s not a group or an organization. It’s a movement or an ideology.”

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...d0be4b65f2362e


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I'd have to see the quote, but most people dont really understand what "organization" is

    It doesn't necessarily mean there is a titular head/ horizontal orgs for ex. are like ANTIFA with local chapters.
    Saying antifa is an organization is like saying there's been a war on terror.

    Both antifascism and terror are beliefs, ideas and concepts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Actually they usually show up every time organizations like Proud Boys show up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    yes, he did, and he is serious.

    That's why he is off the rail batshit crazy

    he's out of touch with kitchen table America


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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Antifa isn't organized but BLM is with many chapters.
    ANTIFA is very organized. Their leaders remain hidden for obvious reasons.

    Perú, for many years, had the exact same ANTIFA/BLM arrangement, i.e. Sendero Luminoso/Tupac Amaru. Both were "domestic terrorist" organizations that promted Peruvians to elect Fujimori simply on the platform of promising to put an end to all the terror.

    ANTIFA and Sendero Luminoso are Marxist Anarchist organizations whose leaders don't dare show their faces lest they face the death penalty. They are not socialists.

    BLM and Tupac Amaru are Marxist causes rallying around a selected victim group. They lean socialist. Their concern for said victim group ends with the name of the organization as only a small percentage of the organization is of the celebrated victim group, however the socialist cause requires all members to virtue-signal the victimhood of the group as the doctrine that unites the members under the cause.

    These organizations have been around for centuries and did not somehow recently "form spontaneously" in the US. Organizations such as these are always ready to spring into existence with funding and logistics support whenever certain political environmental factors are right. As my signature states, they ALWAYS wear the disguise of being brand new to make the members feel like it's THEIR cause ... and so they don't realize that they are being used by much bigger powers who care nothing for them and who will discard them when convenient.

    Hitler's ANTIFA were the brown shirts. He used them to propel him into power, even though he hated them, he never trusted them and disposed of them when first feasible.

    ANTIFA is not new, is not an idea and is definitely very organized.
    Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
    Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Did he really say that?
    Antifa is not an organization, and has no desire to be an organization. It is barely a movement, and is definitely an idea.

    In the past, movements like that have never been able to gain power. They can move societies, but not get goals. The Volks Movement in Germany definitely moved their society, but the Nazis got control. The anarchists socialists overthrew governments in Russia, but the statist socialists were able to establish a government.

    The peace movement of the 1960's definitely changed America, but was unable to grab power. The current Alt Right movement has done less to change society, but has grabbed power in a way that movements in general cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    he did. it was pathetic. ANTIFA is a horizontal hierarchy
    There is no hierarchy or overarching organization. There are a few social interconnections, but Antifa transcends even them. There is no International, like the statist socialists had.

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