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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed but it proves who has and who hasn't bought into Trump's gaslighting about the election, "voting fraud", mail-in ballots, yada, yada, yada.

    The OP article quoted Adam Smith but there should be no doubt he is citing our armed services responsibilities and responses correctly:

    The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."

    "The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.

    "For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.

    "Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."

    Newsweek has contacted the White House for comment.
    Thanks, I have to get up to speed on the military thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    A year's worth of CNN, MSNBC and Twitter lies all in one concise post. You're one very efficient sheep.
    None of those issues were lies. Please explain why you think they are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    A year's worth of CNN, MSNBC and Twitter lies all in one concise post. You're one very efficient sheep.
    Sorry, honeypot, but those are straight from the Reichwing noise machine, including your beloved Fuehrer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    None of those issues were lies. Please explain why you think they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    A year's worth of CNN, MSNBC and Twitter lies all in one concise post. You're one very efficient sheep.
    ETA: I apologize for leaving out the latest beloved Reichwing bullshit conspiracy thing: mail-in ballot fraud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I can only go by trump's own words about whether he'll leave peacefully if he loses. We've all heard what he's said and what his son said about distrusting the system, you can't deny it's out there.

    I haven't heard the armed forces thing so can't comment on that.

    I'm arguing that your contention of Dems rioting in the streets if trump wins is pure speculation. The people rioting and demonstrating now are doing it for a completely different reason than any election results.
    George Floyd lol?

    Trump [or any President] simply can’t ‘not leave’ the WH after Inauguration Day. The minute Biden gets sworn in Trump is a private citizen with absolutely zero authority.

    Now, what Trump could do—because it was done to him, is recruit some people in the intelligence agencies [if he can find any that don’t want rid of him] and set up some trip wires for the incoming administration: conjure some bullshit reason to interview Biden’s National Security advisor. Maybe call a meeting in the Oval Office with Pence, Billy Barr and some others and have a little Pow Wow.

    Don’t tell Biden’s advisor it’s actually a criminal investigation and not a routine chat. Spring the perjury trap—and it’s off to the races.

    Oh, and yeah can’t forget this: get a list of sketchy Chinese nationals that are connected to the communist regime and have them ‘find’ some dirt on Biden or anyone in Biden’s circle.

    Doesn’t matter if it unadulterated gossip—Trump has people that can slip it past the FISC Court. Then use the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. Screw the predicate—it’s just a fishing expedition, anyway. Never know what might turn up.

    While that’s going on, have Billy Barr give Biden ‘a little heads up’ about a salacious dossier sourced from China: then leak the fact Biden was briefed on it to the media; that gives the media justification to report on, and eventually publish, the dossier sourced from China.

    Just that easily, the incoming Biden administration is hamstrung. With any luck at all, a Special Prosecutor can be appointed which almost guarantees democrats lose in the midterms [just make sure to drag it out long enough] and maybe even impeach and remove Biden over it.

    The military isn’t necessary for a coup.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Bottom line if Biden wins than on Jan 20th at 12 noon he will be the new president, trump then doesn't control anything, if he refuses to leave the WH he can be removed by any means necessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Bottom line if Biden wins than on Jan 20th at 12 noon he will be the new president, trump then doesn't control anything, if he refuses to leave the WH he can be removed by any means necessary
    No matter what happens you will be quivering under the bed like the coward you are. You can shut up now wimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Thanks, I have to get up to speed on the military thing.
    When Trump's militia idiots decide to "take back the streets" after he loses, it won't be the military stopping them, it will be LEOs and citizens....well, armed citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    George Floyd lol?

    Trump [or any President] simply can’t ‘not leave’ the WH after Inauguration Day. The minute Biden gets sworn in Trump is a private citizen with absolutely zero authority.

    Now, what Trump could do—because it was done to him, is recruit some people in the intelligence agencies [if he can find any that don’t want rid of him] and set up some trip wires for the incoming administration: conjure some bullshit reason to interview Biden’s National Security advisor. Maybe call a meeting in the Oval Office with Pence, Billy Barr and some others and have a little Pow Wow.

    Don’t tell Biden’s advisor it’s actually a criminal investigation and not a routine chat. Spring the perjury trap—and it’s off to the races.

    Oh, and yeah can’t forget this: get a list of sketchy Chinese nationals that are connected to the communist regime and have them ‘find’ some dirt on Biden or anyone in Biden’s circle.

    Doesn’t matter if it unadulterated gossip—Trump has people that can slip it past the FISC Court. Then use the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. Screw the predicate—it’s just a fishing expedition, anyway. Never know what might turn up.

    While that’s going on, have Billy Barr give Biden ‘a little heads up’ about a salacious dossier sourced from China: then leak the fact Biden was briefed on it to the media; that gives the media justification to report on, and eventually publish, the dossier sourced from China.

    Just that easily, the incoming Biden administration is hamstrung. With any luck at all, a Special Prosecutor can be appointed which almost guarantees democrats lose in the midterms [just make sure to drag it out long enough] and maybe even impeach and remove Biden over it.

    The military isn’t necessary for a coup.
    Unlike trump, Biden is campaigning on unity rather than divisiveness. He's not criticizing, attacking and lying about all republicans, unlike trump with the Dems. He will be bringing years of government experience to the office and is not afraid to take advice and listen to viewpoints other than his own, unlike trump. He won't be dragging in all the baggage of lying, cheating and grifting; failed business deals; thousands of lawsuits; dozens of accusations by women he assaulted; multiple wives and children and a love of dictators, unlike trump. And he won't be spending the day watching Faux News and endlessly tweeting his grievances.

    People are sick and tired of trump's angry whining complaints about how the whole world's against him. He has zero self-control and he's his own worst enemy.

    He's the mouse that roared.


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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Bottom line if Biden wins than on Jan 20th at 12 noon he will be the new president, trump then doesn't control anything, if he refuses to leave the WH he can be removed by any means necessary
    Agreed. OTOH, I doubt it'll make the news. The news will say "Trump has quietly retired and chooses not to address the nation" or something to that effect.

    What his nut jobs do in the streets is up to the nut jobs. Trump will probably spin them up a few days before the election so I'm sure it will be memorable.

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    Boy, that’s a load off of my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Been 'splainin it for years. You don't like hearing it. Go back to your Twitter.
    And it's been rebutted for years. Go back to your bong.


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