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    That's going to put even more of a burden on their energy crisis. FUcking dumbass libs can't govern.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Buying new vehicles is foolish financially, anyway. No other major purchase loses more value over a short period.
    Jesus H. Christ. A Trump supporter has actually made a true statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Piddle power. It won't create enough power for your electric car to go across country. It won't create enough power for shipping purposes. It won't run factories or businesses by itself. It won't generate power at night, when power is in demand. Expensive too. Installing them requires manufacturing and shipping that uses oil for fuel.

    Go sit in your hut and enjoy your non-air conditioned life.
    Will there be any factories or businesses in California by 2035?

    California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019—economic boom years—765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.

    The reason? Economics, plain and simple. California is too expensive, and its taxes and regulations are too high. The Tax Foundation ranks California 48th in terms of business climate. California is also ranked 48th in terms of regulatory burdens. And California’s cost of living is 50 percent higher than the national average.



    https://www.hoover.org/research/california-businesses-leave-state-thousands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    AND THE LEGENDARY IDIOCY OF GAVIN NEWSOME REACHES NEW HEIGHTS OF MORONIC MOVIES....
    Maybe Newsom doesn't know what happened to Gray Davis.

    The 2000–01 California electricity crisis, also known as the Western U.S. energy crisis of 2000 and 2001, was a situation in which the U.S. state of California had a shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations and capped retail electricity prices. The state suffered from multiple large-scale blackouts, one of the state's largest energy companies collapsed, and the economic fall-out greatly harmed DEMOCRAT Governor Gray Davis's standing.

    Drought, delays in approval of new power plants, and market manipulation decreased supply. This caused an 800% increase in wholesale prices from April 2000 to December 2000.

    In addition, rolling blackouts adversely affected many businesses dependent upon a reliable supply of electricity, and inconvenienced many retail consumers.

    California had an installed generating capacity of 45 GW. At the time of the blackouts, demand was 28 GW. A demand-supply gap was created by energy companies, mainly Enron, to create an artificial shortage. Energy traders took power plants offline for maintenance in days of peak demand. Traders were thus able to sell power at premium prices, sometimes up to a factor of 20 times its normal value. Because the state government had a cap on retail electricity charges, this market manipulation squeezed the industry's revenue margins, causing the bankruptcy of Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) and near bankruptcy of Southern California Edison in early 2001.

    In July 2003, a sufficient number of citizen signatures were collected for a recall election. On October 7, 2003, Davis was recalled with 55.4% of the votes in favor of the recall and Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected to replace him as governor.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_California_electricity_crisis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Rental cars are fleet cars. They just have hundreds of drivers with no vested interest in driving them carefully.
    The assumption is that fleet cars are different. May be, may not. Same degree of vested interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    California does not have enough power in the state right now. Rolling blackouts. They have no plans to build new power plants. Environmentalists will not let them. One just cannot make this shit up. California's Governor is a fucking idiot.

    September 23, 20205:44 PM ET

    California will phase out the sale of all gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in a bid to lead the U.S. in reducing greenhouse gas emissions by encouraging the state's drivers to switch to electric cars.

    Gov. Gavin Newsom signed an executive order Wednesday that amounts to the most aggressive clean-car policy in the United States. Although it bans the sale of new gas cars and trucks after the 15-year deadline, it will still allow such vehicles to be owned and sold on the used-car market.

    "This is the most impactful step our state can take to fight climate change," the governor said in a statement.

    "Our cars shouldn't make wildfires worse — and create more days filled with smoky air. Cars shouldn't melt glaciers or raise sea levels threatening our cherished beaches and coastlines."

    Newsom, a Democrat, also threw his support behind a ban on petroleum fracking but called on the California Legislature to make that change.

    With extreme wildfires still burning in the state, Newsom says fighting climate change is an emergency. More here: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/91620...e-cars-by-2035
    Doesn't surprise me. I left just in time. May that state burn in it's own Democratic hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Will there be any factories or businesses in California by 2035?

    California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019—economic boom years—765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.

    The reason? Economics, plain and simple. California is too expensive, and its taxes and regulations are too high. The Tax Foundation ranks California 48th in terms of business climate. California is also ranked 48th in terms of regulatory burdens. And California’s cost of living is 50 percent higher than the national average.



    https://www.hoover.org/research/california-businesses-leave-state-thousands
    There will be a few. Those that don't require any significant power. It's effectively back to the horse and buggy days for the SOTC, since electric cars use oil products and coal to recharge. If everyone drove an electric car, there is insufficient energy produced by the Sun and the wind to power them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Maybe Newsom doesn't know what happened to Gray Davis.

    The 2000–01 California electricity crisis, also known as the Western U.S. energy crisis of 2000 and 2001, was a situation in which the U.S. state of California had a shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations and capped retail electricity prices. The state suffered from multiple large-scale blackouts, one of the state's largest energy companies collapsed, and the economic fall-out greatly harmed DEMOCRAT Governor Gray Davis's standing.

    Drought, delays in approval of new power plants, and market manipulation decreased supply. This caused an 800% increase in wholesale prices from April 2000 to December 2000.

    In addition, rolling blackouts adversely affected many businesses dependent upon a reliable supply of electricity, and inconvenienced many retail consumers.

    California had an installed generating capacity of 45 GW. At the time of the blackouts, demand was 28 GW. A demand-supply gap was created by energy companies, mainly Enron, to create an artificial shortage. Energy traders took power plants offline for maintenance in days of peak demand. Traders were thus able to sell power at premium prices, sometimes up to a factor of 20 times its normal value. Because the state government had a cap on retail electricity charges, this market manipulation squeezed the industry's revenue margins, causing the bankruptcy of Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) and near bankruptcy of Southern California Edison in early 2001.

    In July 2003, a sufficient number of citizen signatures were collected for a recall election. On October 7, 2003, Davis was recalled with 55.4% of the votes in favor of the recall and Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected to replace him as governor.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_California_electricity_crisis
    This kind of thing would be a good start, but the problem in Sacramento is entrenched among many. You will have to remove them all, and re-establish a republic, and a State constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Doesn't surprise me. I left just in time. May that state burn in it's own Democratic hell.
    I'm glad you got out.
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    My truck gets 10 mpg. My Prius gets 52. I drive the Prius or Honda much more than the truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nice try, but it won't work when gasoline and diesel engines are banned completely.
    I guess the state starves then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Will there be any factories or businesses in California by 2035?

    California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019—economic boom years—765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.

    The reason? Economics, plain and simple. California is too expensive, and its taxes and regulations are too high. The Tax Foundation ranks California 48th in terms of business climate. California is also ranked 48th in terms of regulatory burdens. And California’s cost of living is 50 percent higher than the national average.



    https://www.hoover.org/research/california-businesses-leave-state-thousands
    But the big techie "sweat shops" like Google are staying because the billionaires running them like the California lifestyle. They don't care if their rank and file workers have to live in a tent, or their car. Not their problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There will be a few. Those that don't require any significant power. It's effectively back to the horse and buggy days for the SOTC, since electric cars use oil products and coal to recharge. If everyone drove an electric car, there is insufficient energy produced by the Sun and the wind to power them all.
    It gets worse. A complete ban on gasoline and diesel engines means that only specialized (eg., much higher priced) trucking companies using electric vehicles will operate in California. Construction will come to a halt as there is little or no incentive to switch things like bulldozers to electric. Banning home back up generators (they run on gas or diesel) will only hasten the exodus from the state as people will get fed up with the black outs and brown outs that occur more and more frequently.
    Wait until a hospital loses power and they have no back up because their diesel emergency generators were replaced by batteries and the power loss went more than a few hours which is longer than their batteries would last...

    Yep, California... Right in the shitter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    This kind of thing would be a good start, but the problem in Sacramento is entrenched among many. You will have to remove them all, and re-establish a republic, and a State constitution.
    That would mean overcoming the ballot harvesting and other electoral tactics employed by the party in power, wouldn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Big techie "sweat shops" like Google are staying because the billionaires running them like the California lifestyle. They don't care if their rank and file workers have to live in a tent, or their car. Not their problem...
    Aren't many of them H1-Bs living ten to a house, anyway?

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