About that 200,000*

[BartenderElite]

So what. The stats have been fake from the start.

Awesome.

[Darth Omar]

Virus gonna virus...right?

Till it runs out of a sufficient number of susceptible victims to create an epidemic. Though it usually remains endemic in the population.

Then it stops virusing. If it didn’t work that way the human population would have been eradicated long ago by run-away pandemics.

The immune system is an ingenious product of design. They still don’t have it totally figured out.

[Truth Detector]

400,000 by Christmas ?

^More wishful thinking from lying, worthless pieces of human filth.

[moon]

^More wishful thinking from lying, worthless pieces of human filth.

Dumbass Trump-hump. I've been saying - stay home and wear a mask - for months.

[katzgar]

Then too there is the matter of if we were to take the official COVID death number and subtract those who died in car accidents what would that number be?

when all you do is pull snot out of your ass all you have is an empty ass

[Hawkeye10]

Iatrogenic deaths.

Several tens of thousands, at minimum. Due to the early CDC guidelines with intubating COVID patients. Intubation COVID=bad.

Good news is iatrogenic deaths are way down which is a big reason there’s been a significant drop in the death rate. So anyone ‘hoping’ for more big numbers before the election is probably going to be disappointed.

Doctors were on orders to use vents with COVID before they would normally be used, when using vents at all should be only when there is no other choice......for so many weeks doctors working with patients had a sense that they were making a mistake but they had to do it anyway, because of the orders from the hospitals. I am upset about three things

1) that doctors were forced to follow these orders in the first place, who the fuck do the beurocrats think they are giving this kind of order?

2) that it took so long to get the orders lifted when they were obviously killing people.

3) that the so-called journalists almost completely refused to tell this story.

[Hawkeye10]

I remember when I posted a video of a technician in a NY hospital railing about all the ventilators lying idle in a store room. The usual fuckwits like Joanie, Katzshit and Arsecheese tried to say he wasn't a doctor, so what did he know. Well you nasty cunts, he was fucking right and you were wrong.

I never got to the bottom of why hospital bureaucrats gave the order to use vents early on COVID, but at least one person I read was pretty sure part of the problem was state bureaucrats wanting there to be a shortage of vents in order to make the claim that Trump was killing people.

[Hawkeye10]

I've heard in TV discussions number between 5,800 and 15,000.

The stats are accumulated by Cuomo's butt kissers. We may never know.

We will never know, in part because of the incompetence of our leaders and in part because of their lack of morality. In the end though COVID was completely and tragically mismanaged. THis goes on the list with the Iraq debacle and the Great Recession as the top three reasons why the Elites are rapidly losing their reputations, why the Little People are getting to "ENOUGHT!".

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Unexplained excess deaths at home almost nine times higher than those from Covid

ONS figures spark concern that many are failing to get treatment for serious conditions as coronavirus crisis continues

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-higher-covid/
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There is no questioning the fact of excess deaths in 2020. But the emerging question is how many of them fall into the ‘unexplained’ category and are plausibly due to lockdowns and delayed medical treatment.

It’s going to take time to unravel this but the facts are slowly emerging.

It only shows how crucial early testing would have been; under competent honest leadership.

We had neither, so we suffered more deaths.

An earlier and better planned government response package would have kept people on the employment rolls by paying employers to keep workers at home. This would have kept work related health insurance in place and allowed people to seek the health care they needed. The economy never had to crash.

[Althea]

Unexplained excess deaths at home almost nine times higher than those from Covid

ONS figures spark concern that many are failing to get treatment for serious conditions as coronavirus crisis continues

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-higher-covid/
______________________

There is no questioning the fact of excess deaths in 2020. But the emerging question is how many of them fall into the ‘unexplained’ category and are plausibly due to lockdowns and delayed medical treatment.

It’s going to take time to unravel this but the facts are slowly emerging.

Not gonna pay to read the piece. If they are making the claim that people are delaying medical treatment because facilities are overwhelmed, then you have successfully made the case for wearing masks across the nation, and practicing proper distancing.

[Althea]

Hard to say.

But there’s no question that the northeast outbreak was the biggie. After that, the Sun Belt kicked in but that was more a ‘steady bleed’, if you will. But that wave burnt itself out for the most part. Now it’s in the Midwest—and so far at least, that wave is off to a slower start than the Sun Belt wave.

The virus seems to have moved through the high population density regions—and with any luck, has left a fair amount of immunity in its wake. Seems to the case in NYC. The China virus ‘needs’ high population density to kick up the big numbers so with any luck we’ve seen the worst of it.

Though SF is interesting: it doesnt fit the pattern. It’s not masks, because there’s everything reason to think COVID would plow right their homeless population. And not only do they not mask they live elbow to elbow in utter squalor.

Interesting.

What a crock. There is no immunity in NYC. There is no immunity to Covid. NYC, and the state to a lesser degree, is still under extremely stringent guidelines. Said guidelines are the only reason for the low incidence of new infection.

Not some idiotic claim of immunity.

Covid didn't 'kick in' in the Sunbelt. Ga/Fla/Texas all took trump's pandering as Covid policy, and invited the outbreak on Memorial Day. The Midwest outbreak is still growing, in part due to Sturgis. No doubt due to trump's Klan rallies as well.


Covid had 'big numbers' in NY not because of the population density. It happened because trump allowed it to happen by refusing to act at the airports in early January, when he was first briefed. It could have spread at any region of the nation that had a large international hub.

[Althea]

Till it runs out of a sufficient number of susceptible victims to create an epidemic. Though it usually remains endemic in the population.

Then it stops virusing. If it didn’t work that way the human population would have been eradicated long ago by run-away pandemics.

The immune system is an ingenious product of design. They still don’t have it totally figured out.

It will end when the vaccine is successful.

[katzgar]

Unexplained excess deaths at home almost nine times higher than those from Covid

ONS figures spark concern that many are failing to get treatment for serious conditions as coronavirus crisis continues

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-higher-covid/
______________________

There is no questioning the fact of excess deaths in 2020. But the emerging question is how many of them fall into the ‘unexplained’ category and are plausibly due to lockdowns and delayed medical treatment.

It’s going to take time to unravel this but the facts are slowly emerging.

You are making the point that your guy is a fuck up. I agree.

[Darth Omar]

You are making the point that your guy is a fuck up. I agree.

Are any of you goof balls capable of debating this topic without indulging your Orange Man Bad complex?

[Darth Omar]

It will end when the vaccine is successful.

Vaccines rely on herd immunity.