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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Wisconsin law does not allow people under 18 to carry a gun, unless they are involved with hunting, target shooting, or military service. Rittenhouse was not hunting, so he has been charged with being a minor in possession of a gun. Night may not like the law, but that is the law.
    That is not the law. You are misquoting the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Grosskreutz is a felon. He is not allowed to carry a gun, openly or concealed.
    You may not like it, but Grosskreutz had a concealed carry permit. He was able to get that concealed carry permit, because he had absolutely no felony convictions. He had every legal right to carry a concealed weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Wisconsin law does not allow people under 18 to carry a gun, unless they are involved with hunting, target shooting, or military service. Rittenhouse was not hunting, so he has been charged with being a minor in possession of a gun. Night may not like the law, but that is the law.
    You have no idea why he had that gun. That is for a court to decide. Other than that the law you are hanging your hat on is a misdemeanor. Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Wisconsin law does not allow people under 18 to carry a gun, unless they are involved with hunting, target shooting, or military service. Rittenhouse was not hunting, so he has been charged with being a minor in possession of a gun. Night may not like the law, but that is the law.
    Well, it seems to T. A. and a few others, little Rittenhouse was hunting for felons and even though he had no prior knowledge of this fact, he was justified in shooting them because they had a record!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    In Wisconsin you need a permit to conceal carry and a felon may not possess a firearm. Grosskreutz was committing two felonies by possessing and concealing a pistol.
    Grosskreutz had a concealed carry permit. In the State of Wisconsin, he had every right to carry his legal gun in a concealed way. He was able to get that concealed carry permit, because he was over age 18, had no felony convictions, and lived in Wisconsin.

    Grosskreutz having a permit makes proving a crime virtually impossible.

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    Here's Anthony Huber's record:



    As for Rosenbaum, he's just a total POS. Below is his Arizona Dept. of Corrections disciplinary record while in prison.



    Here's the case that was pending against him at the time he was shot...

    https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail...0&mode=details

    https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail...0&mode=details

    He was charged with bail jumping, battery, domestic abuse, and disorderly conduct awaiting trial on those charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Grosskreutz had a concealed carry permit. In the State of Wisconsin, he had every right to carry his legal gun in a concealed way. He was able to get that concealed carry permit, because he was over age 18, had no felony convictions, and lived in Wisconsin.

    Grosskreutz having a permit makes proving a crime virtually impossible.
    How? He was a convicted felon. That means possession of a firearm was illegal for him. Are you claiming the official records from the state of Wisconsin are in error or a lie? His friend Cheong claimed that stuff, along with saying Grosskreutz wasn't a felon. The state of Wisconsin says otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yup. $948.60, paragraph 3(c), $941.28, $29.304, and $29.593.
    Nailed it. As I read those Statutes, the misdemeanor charge shouldn't even stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Well, it seems to T. A. and a few others, little Rittenhouse was hunting for felons and even though he had no prior knowledge of this fact, he was justified in shooting them because they had a record!
    What kind of insane strawman argument is that? All I am pointing out is that all three of the people he shot had a history of criminal activity and violence in their past. It doesn't justify anything on its own, but it does argue that they would have been inclined to violence unprovoked and that is largely borne out by the videos available of this incident. If Huber had left Rittenhouse alone and not beat him with his skateboard and tried to take his rifle, he'd be alive right now. If Grosskreutz hadn't gone for his pistol and had backed away from Rittenhouse like he first started to do, he wouldn't have been shot.
    Rosenbaum? That major POS, career criminal, serial felon is in a whole 'nother class. He was a violent asswipe committing felonies, and wanted by police. He unilaterally attacked Rittenhouse and was shot for his actions. He deserved what he got and it was clearly self-defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    That's Grosskreutz's criminal record.
    You started by claiming it was Cheong's record. Then you claimed it was Huber's record. And now it is supposedly is Grosskreutz's record. How can three different people have identical records?

    Of the three, it is closest to Huber's record. It replaces Huber's plea agreement to avoid a felony conviction with a guilty plea.

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    That's Grosskreutz's mug shots.
    Grosskreutz has dark hair, and less sharp features. That is not Grosskreutz. It appears to be Huber. Just as a reminder, whatever Huber's record says does not effect Grosskreutz's ability to get a concealed carry permit for obvious reasons.

    Here are pictures of the four of them, and you can clearly see that is NOT Grosskreutz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Wisconsin law does not allow people under 18 to carry a gun, unless they are involved with hunting, target shooting, or military service. Rittenhouse was not hunting, so he has been charged with being a minor in possession of a gun. Night may not like the law, but that is the law.
    I suggest you read the law a bit closer (and not leave any exceptions out)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    You may not like it, but Grosskreutz had a concealed carry permit. He was able to get that concealed carry permit, because he had absolutely no felony convictions. He had every legal right to carry a concealed weapon.
    Irrelevant. It is not legal for a felon to carry any kind of firearm in Wisconsin, openly or concealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    You started by claiming it was Cheong's record. Then you claimed it was Huber's record. And now it is supposedly is Grosskreutz's record. How can three different people have identical records?

    Of the three, it is closest to Huber's record. It replaces Huber's plea agreement to avoid a felony conviction with a guilty plea.



    Grosskreutz has dark hair, and less sharp features. That is not Grosskreutz. It appears to be Huber. Just as a reminder, whatever Huber's record says does not effect Grosskreutz's ability to get a concealed carry permit for obvious reasons.

    Here are pictures of the four of them, and you can clearly see that is NOT Grosskreutz.
    Sorry, my error. That is Huber's record. Trying to do this on the fly with three felon's records is not easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    You have no idea why he had that gun. That is for a court to decide. Other than that the law you are hanging your hat on is a misdemeanor. Next.
    He doesn't need a reason to have the gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Well, it seems to T. A. and a few others, little Rittenhouse was hunting for felons and even though he had no prior knowledge of this fact, he was justified in shooting them because they had a record!
    Nope. He shot them in self defense.
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