Dear White Evangelicals,

[RB 60]

So in other words, you prefer to believe that all ppl on the left hate Christians despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I'm sure that's what "spiritual beliefs" mean, right?

Just because someone disagrees with a particular individual or group's actions and words, doesn't mean that they hate them. Why are you guys so victimy? Do *you* agree with the fake charlatans who preach just to enrich themselves? Like that Osteen guy, or the one lurking about the WH, those "prosperity doctrine" preachers?

Right on cue, babbling your bullshit. We Evangelicals have been under attack from you haters for years. You act like every minister in our denomination is rich from scamming people. That isn't true, you'll see it when you go to one of our smaller churches looking for free handouts.

[Cypress]

What was so great about her? Be specific.

Keep a stiff upper lip, snowflake.

It was liberals on this thread who made the point that not all evangelical Christians can be stereotyped.

Liberals on this thread are voting for a devout Roman Catholic Christian.

You are voting for - and relentlessly defending - an amoral, self-absorbed atheist who has repeatedly demonstrated he only worships money.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Right on cue, babbling your bullshit. We Evangelicals have been under attack from you haters for years. You act like every minister in our denomination is rich from scamming people. That isn't true, you'll see it when you go to one of our smaller churches looking for free handouts.

Why on Earth would I (or anyone else) go to one of your churches for "free hand outs"? That's just your silly and pointless victimhood talking again. Of course most ministers are not in it for the money. No one criticizes them -- unless of course they are caught molesting children or otherwise abusing their status. But we do righteously condemn those who build up mega-churches and mega-fortunes while preying on their parishioners. We also criticize those who want to insert their brand of religious belief into our secular government. Doesn't matter if they are Muslim, Xtian, Jewish, Wiccan, Hindu or whatever.

The problem with you issuing your "all you guys always ___" statements is it destroys any credibility you might have. Of course as a #TRE45ON cultists, you have very little of that to begin with.

[CFM]

Why on Earth would I (or anyone else) go to one of your churches for "free hand outs"? That's just your silly and pointless victimhood talking again. Of course most ministers are not in it for the money. No one criticizes them -- unless of course they are caught molesting children or otherwise abusing their status. But we do righteously condemn those who build up mega-churches and mega-fortunes while preying on their parishioners. We also criticize those who want to insert their brand of religious belief into our secular government. Doesn't matter if they are Muslim, Xtian, Jewish, Wiccan, Hindu or whatever.

The problem with you issuing your "all you guys always ___" statements is it destroys any credibility you might have. Of course as a #TRE45ON cultists, you have very little of that to begin with.

Thinks she's God and has the ability to condemn someone. Talk about hypocrisy.

Show the forum that you're a gutless coward. You know how to do it. You've been trained by your superiors.

[RB 60]

Why on Earth would I (or anyone else) go to one of your churches for "free hand outs"? That's just your silly and pointless victimhood talking again. Of course most ministers are not in it for the money. No one criticizes them -- unless of course they are caught molesting children or otherwise abusing their status. But we do righteously condemn those who build up mega-churches and mega-fortunes while preying on their parishioners. We also criticize those who want to insert their brand of religious belief into our secular government. Doesn't matter if they are Muslim, Xtian, Jewish, Wiccan, Hindu or whatever.

The problem with you issuing your "all you guys always ___" statements is it destroys any credibility you might have. Of course as a #TRE45ON cultists, you have very little of that to begin with.

You forgot to add I'm a racist, too!

[ThatOwlWoman]

You forgot to add I'm a racist, too!

You are? Many pardons.

[Jarod]

First I want to say why I put this here, rather than the "religion" forum.

Because you, well many/most of you are about politics, not religion.

So while you claim to be "Christ like", it aint Jesus you're rePing here, it's trump..

Most, if not all of you won't be convicted, mostly because you are even afraid to read it..

He/she who has ears let them hear




Dear White Evangelicals,
I need to tell you something: People have had it with you. They’re done. They want nothing to do with you any longer, and here’s why:

They see your hypocrisy, your inconsistency, your incredibly selective mercy, and your thinly veiled supremacy.

For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity. They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence.

They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him. And through it all, White Evangelicals—you never once suggested that God placed him where he was; you never publicly offered prayers for him and his family; you never welcomed him to your Christian Universities; you never gave him the benefit of the doubt in any instance; you never spoke of offering him forgiveness or mercy; your evangelists never publicly thanked God for his leadership; your pastors never took to the pulpit to offer solidarity with him; you never made any effort to affirm his humanity or show the love of Jesus to him in any quantifiable measure.

You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.

And yet you give carte blanche to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.

And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: a being born again.

With him, you suddenly find religion. With him, you’re now willing to offer full absolution. With him, all is forgiven without repentance or admission.

With him you’re suddenly able to see some invisible, deeply buried heart. With him, sin has become unimportant, compassion no longer a requirement. With him, you see only Providence.

And White Evangelicals, all those people who have had it with you—they see it all clearly.

They recognize the toxic source of your inconsistency.

They see that pigmentation and party are your sole deities.

They see that you aren’t interested in perpetuating the love of God or emulating the heart of Jesus.

They see that you aren’t burdened to love the least, or to be agents of compassion, or to care for your Muslim, gay, African, female, or poor neighbors as yourself.

They see that all you’re really interested in doing, is making a God in your own ivory image and demanding that the world bow down to it. They recognize this all about white, Republican Jesus—not dark-skinned Jesus of Nazareth.

And I know you don’t realize it, but you’re digging your own grave in these days; the grave of your very faith tradition.

Your willingness to align yourself with cruelty is a costly marriage. Yes, you’ve gained a Supreme Court seat, a few months with the Presidency as a mouthpiece, and the cheap high of temporary power—but you’ve lost a whole lot more.

You’ve lost an audience with millions of wise, decent, good-hearted, faithful people with eyes to see this ugliness.

You’ve lost any moral high ground or spiritual authority with a generation. You’ve lost any semblance of Christlikeness. You’ve lost the plot. And most of all you’ve lost your soul.

I know it’s likely you’ll dismiss these words. The fact that you’ve even made your bed with such malevolence, shows how far gone you are and how insulated you are from the reality in front of you.

But I had to at least try to reach you. It’s what Jesus would do.

- Christian Pastor John Pavlovitz

Amen!!!!

WOW, this is good!

[Jarod]

We tend to forget that Jimmy Carter is an evangelical Christian, a trained nuclear engineer, and a practitioner of the liberal social welfare gospel. That is the only way to describe Habitat for Humanity.

The author of the article paints a caricature of evangelicals with too broad a brush in my opinion.

It might be worth making a distinction bewtween Protestant evangelicals, and Protestant fundamentalists.

Carter and his Church left the Baptists over their treatment of women.

[RB 60]

You are? Many pardons.

You claimed I am. Have you forgotten when you and Super Moderator said because I support our president, I'm a racist?

[RB 60]

WOW, this is good!

...from another feeble-minded hypocrite...

[Jarod]

...from another feeble-minded hypocrite...

All you got is a silly insult, very Christian.

[CFM]

WOW, this is good!

Another fake pastor spreading popular rather than biblical christianity.

[CFM]

All you got is a silly insult, very Christian.

The Bible addresses hypocrites like you.

[Jarod]

The Bible addresses hypocrites like you.

Are you confusing me with Trump*?

[RB 60]

All you got is a silly insult, very Christian.

Just returning your approval of an insult to my beliefs.