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    Default Huge power grab by Trump* administration.

    Trump has taken all authority over vaccinations.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/h...r-hhs-fda.html
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    So what is your problem with it?

    Maybe it was Ginsburg's dying wish that this happen?

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    If it's a Trump vaccine I won't get it.

    I do not trust him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Hiden View Post
    So what is your problem with it?

    Maybe it was Ginsburg's dying wish that this happen?
    I do not trust Trump, they will warp anything for advantage, they would kill thousands if they thought it helped Trump to look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I do not trust Trump, they will warp anything for advantage, they would kill thousands if they thought it helped Trump to look good.
    you don't really believe that

    if you do then your TDS is beyond repair

    would you prefer a Vaccine Czar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump has taken all authority over vaccinations.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/h...r-hhs-fda.html
    I thought your ilk has been bellyaching for months for Trump to be more in charge of the situation.
    Just proves damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Just like you'll riot if he wins, riot if he doesn't. Miserable lot.
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    Most of the anti-maskers I either know personally or whose posts I've seen here and there are saying they will refuse a COVID vaccine as well.

    Only thing that Twittler has left is round us up and force 'em on us. Bet *that* will go over big with his base.

    In other news, the CDC has reversed its prior stance and is now saying the icky little coughed-out droplets WON'T make us sick. Bet you can guess who directed that change, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If it's a Trump vaccine I won't get it.

    I do not trust him.
    I'm good with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I thought your ilk has been bellyaching for months for Trump to be more in charge of the situation.
    Just proves damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Just like you'll riot if he wins, riot if he doesn't. Miserable lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If it's a Trump vaccine I won't get it.

    I do not trust him.
    LOL I don't see Trump in any of the labs.


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    Nurse Kathe Olmstead, right, gives volunteer Melissa Harting, of Harpersville, New York, an injection as part of a study for a possible COVID-19 vaccine developed by Moderna Therapeutics and the National Institutes of Health and Moderna Inc., on July 27, 2020 in Binghamton, New York.
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    ScienceCoronavirus Coverage
    Dozens of COVID-19 vaccines are in development. Here are the ones to follow.
    Here are the COVID-19 vaccine prospects that have made it to phase three trials and beyond.
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    By Amy McKeever

    PUBLISHED September 14, 2020

    More than 150 coronavirus vaccines are in development across the world—and hopes are high to bring one to market in record time to ease the global crisis. Several efforts are underway to help make that possible, including the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed initiative, which has pledged $10 billion and aims to develop and deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective coronavirus vaccine by January 2021. The World Health Organization is also coordinating global efforts to develop a vaccine, with an eye toward delivering two billion doses by the end of 2021.

    The candidates, like all vaccines, essentially aim to instruct the immune system to mount a defense, which is sometimes stronger than what would be provided through natural infection and comes with fewer health consequences.

    To do so, some vaccines use the whole coronavirus, but in a killed or weakened state. Others use only part of the virus—whether a protein or a fragment. Some transfer the coronavirus proteins into a different virus that is unlikely to cause disease or even incapable of it. Finally, some vaccines under development rely on deploying pieces of the coronavirus’s genetic material, so our cells can temporarily make the coronavirus proteins needed to stimulate our immune systems. (Here’s what vaccines are and how they work.)

    It can typically take 10 to 15 years to bring a vaccine to market; the fastest-ever—the vaccine for mumps—required four years in the 1960s. Vaccines go through a multi-stage clinical trial process, which starts by checking their safety and whether they trigger an immune response in a small group of healthy humans. The second phase widens the testing pool to include groups of people who may have the disease or be more likely to catch it, to gauge the vaccine’s effectiveness. The third phase expands the pool up to the thousands to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective among a wider array of people, given that immune response can vary by age, ethnicity, or by underlying health conditions. It then goes to regulatory agencies for approval—which can be a lengthy process itself.

    Even after a vaccine is approved, it faces potential roadblocks when it comes to manufacturing and distribution, from scaling up the production to meet demands to deciding which populations should get it first—and at what cost. Many vaccines also stay in what’s called phase four, a perpetual stage of regular study. (Here's how we'll know when a COVID-19 vaccine is ready.)

    But vaccine developers are attempting to compress that process for SARS-CoV-2 by running clinical trial phases simultaneously.In addition, Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has stated that the independent Data and Safety Monitoring Board can end trials early if their interim results are overwhelmingly positive or negative. Meanwhile, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has promised to fast-track the approval process, while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has asked governors to fast-track permits and licenses for vaccine distribution sites so that they can be operational by November 1, 2020. The move, made at the behest of the Trump Administration, has some observers worried the decision is politically motivated, because the deadline falls just days before the U.S. presidential election.

    Though it’s too soon to say which candidates will ultimately be successful, here’s a look at the vaccine prospects that have made it to phase three and beyond—including a quick primer on how they work and where they stand.

    Moderna Therapeutics


    Name: mRNA-1273

    Who: A Massachusetts-based biotech company, in collaboration with the National Institutes of Health.

    What: This vaccine candidate relies on injecting snippets of a virus’s genetic material, in this case mRNA, into human cells. They create viral proteins that mimic the coronavirus, training the immune system to recognize its presence. This technology has never been licensed for any disease. If successful, it would be the first mRNA vaccine approved for human use. (Here’s how mRNA vaccines work.)

    Status: On July 27, Moderna announced it had started the third phase of its clinical trials, even as it continues to monitor phase two results. Preliminary findings from phase one have shown that healthy subjects—including elderly patients—produced coronavirus antibodies and a reaction from T-cells, another arm of the human immune response. Phase three will test the vaccine in 30,000 U.S. participants. Moderna says it is on track to deliver at least 500 million doses per year beginning in 2021, thanks in part to the deal it has struck with Swiss manufacturer Lonza that will allow it to manufacture up to one billion doses a year.

    Pfizer


    Name: BNT162b2

    Who: One of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies, based in New York, in collaboration with German biotech company BioNTech.

    What: Pfizer and BioNTech are also developing an mRNA vaccine based on the German company’s earlier efforts to use the technology in experimental cancer vaccines. Pfizer has signed a nearly $2 billion contract with the U.S. government to provide 100 million doses by December 2020—an agreement that goes into effect when and if the drug is approved and delivered.

    Status: On July 27, Pfizer and BioNTech launched a trial that combines phase two and three by enrolling a diverse population in areas with significant SARS-CoV-2 transmission. It will examine the vaccine’s effect in 30,000 people from 39 U.S. states and from Brazil, Argentina, and Germany. The project is aiming to seek regulatory review as early as October 2020 to meet the December deadline—and hopes to supply 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021. Preliminary results of phase one/two data show the vaccine produces antibodies and T-cell responses specific to the SARS-CoV-2 protein.

    University of Oxford


    Name: ChAdOx1 nCoV-19

    Who: The U.K. university, in collaboration with the biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca.

    What: Oxford’s candidate is what’s known as a viral vector vaccine, essentially a “Trojan horse” presented to the immune system. Oxford’s research team has transferred the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein—which helps the coronavirus invade cells—into a weakened version of an adenovirus, which typically causes the common cold. When this adenovirus is injected into humans, the hope is that the spike protein will trigger an immune response. AstraZeneca and Oxford plan to produce a billion doses of vaccine that they’ve agreed to sell at cost.

    Status: Preliminary results from this candidate’s first two clinical trial phases revealed that the vaccine had triggered a strong immune response—including increased antibodies and responses from T-cells—with only minor side effects such as fatigue and headache. It is in phase three of clinical trials, aiming to recruit up to 50,000 volunteers in Brazil, the United Kingdom, the United States, and South Africa. On September 8, AstraZeneca paused the trials for a safety review due to an adverse reaction in one participant in the U.K. The details remain unclear, though the company has described the pause as a “routine action.” After an investigation by independent regulators, the trials resumed on September 12.

    Sinovac

    Name: CoronaVac

    Who: A Chinese biopharmaceutical company, in collaboration with Brazilian research center Butantan.

    What: CoronaVac is an inactivated vaccine, meaning it uses a non-infectious version of the coronavirus. While inactivated pathogens can no longer produce disease, they can still provoke an immune response, such as with the annual influenza vaccine.

    Status: On July 3, Brazil’s regulatory agency granted this vaccine candidate approval to move ahead to phase three, as it continues to monitor the results of the phase two clinical trials. Preliminary results in macaque monkeys, published in Science, revealed that the vaccine produced antibodies that neutralized 10 strains of SARS-CoV-2. Sinovac has also released preprint results of its phase two human trial that likewise showed the vaccine produced antibodies with no severe adverse reactions. Phase three will recruit nearly 9,000 healthcare professionals in Brazil. Sinovac
    will also conduct phase three trials in Indonesia and Bangladesh.

    Sinopharm

    Name: None

    Who: China’s state-run pharmaceutical company, in collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products.

    What: Sinopharm is also using an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine that it hopes will reach the public by the end of 2020. Preliminary findings from two randomized trials, published in JAMA, have shown the vaccine can trigger an antibody response with no serious adverse effects. The study did not measure T cell-mediated immune responses. These results are significant, though, as they are the first published data from human clinical trials for a COVID-19 vaccine that uses a whole, inactivated virus.

    Status: On August 22, China revealed that it began to inoculate medical workers and other high-risk groups with the Sinopharm trial vaccines in July, making it the first experimental vaccine available to civilians beyond clinical volunteers. Also in July, Sinopharm launched its first phase three trial among 15,000 volunteers—aged 18 to 60, with no serious underlying conditions—in the United Arab Emirates. The company selected the UAE because it has a diverse population made up of approximately 200 nationalities, making it an ideal testing ground. Sinopharm will also undertake phase three trials in locations such as Peru and Bahrain.

    Murdoch Children’s Research Institute

    Name: Bacillus Calmette-Guerin BRACE trial

    Who: The largest child health research institute in Australia, in collaboration with the University of Melbourne.

    What: For nearly a hundred years, the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccine has been used to prevent tuberculosis by exposing patients to a small dose of live bacteria. Evidence has emerged over the years that this vaccine may boost the immune system and help the body fight off other diseases as well. Researchers are investigating whether these benefits may also extend to SARS-CoV-2, and this trial has reached phase three in Australia. Though as of April 12, the World Health Organization says there is no evidence that the BCG vaccine protects people against infection with the coronavirus.

    Status: In April, researchers from the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute began a series of randomized controlled trials that will test whether BCG might work on the coronavirus as well. They aim to recruit 10,000 healthcare workers in the study.

    CanSino Biologics

    Name: Ad5-nCoV

    Who: A Chinese biopharmaceutical company.

    What: CanSino has also developed a viral vector vaccine, using a weakened version of the adenovirus as a vehicle for introducing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to the body. Preliminary results from phase two trials, published in The Lancet, have shown that the vaccine produces “significant immune responses in the majority of recipients after a single immunisation.” There were no serious adverse reactions documented.

    Status: Though the company was still technically in phase two of its trial, on June 25, CanSino became the first company to receive limited approval to use its vaccine in people. The Chinese government has approved the vaccine for military use only, for a period of one year. On August 15, Russian biopharmaceutical company Petrovax announced it had launched the first phase three clinical trial of Ad5-nCoV.

    The Gamaleya National Center of Epidemiology and Microbiology

    Name: Sputnik V

    Who: A Russian research institution, in partnership with the state-run Russian Direct Investment Fund.

    What: Gamaleya has developed a viral vector vaccine that also uses a weakened version of the common cold-causing adenovirus to introduce the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to the body. This vaccine uses two strains of adenovirus, and it requires a second injection after 21 days to boost the immune response. Russia has not published any data from its clinical trials, but officials with the institute state that they have completed phases one and two. The researchers also claim the vaccine produced strong antibody and cellular immune responses.

    Status: Despite the lack of published evidence, Russia has cleared the Sputnik V vaccine for widespread use and claimed it as the first registered COVID-19 vaccine on the market. Russia reports that it will start phase three clinical trials on August 12; the World Health Organization, however, lists the Sputnik V vaccine as being in phase one of clinical trials.

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    Don’t forget Trump told Woodward in private it was airborne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump has taken all authority over vaccinations.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/h...r-hhs-fda.html
    IT IS ALREADY THE ADMINISTRATION'S POWER, DIMWIT.


    THE FDA IS UNDER THE HHS...AND??

    UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS (LIKE THE FDA) ,HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THE CABINET THAT CONTROLS THEM.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I do not trust Trump, they will warp anything for advantage, they would kill thousands if they thought it helped Trump to look good.

    And the Democrats would kill millions to get him out of office. They have already burned down the neighborhoods of people who actually voted for them. That should change some votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Hiden View Post
    So what is your problem with it?
    Nothing for those who like increased centralization of federal power.

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