Bigdog (09-19-2020), dukkha (09-19-2020), ExpressLane (09-19-2020), Sailor (09-19-2020), Stretch (09-19-2020)
An article by somebody who believes that mankind contributes to global warming...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#6a74e8b63712
California Has Always Had Fires, Environmental Alarmism Makes Them Worse Than Necessary
I woke up an hour later than normal yesterday morning because smoke from northern California’s forest fires had blotted out the sun. My bedroom windows glowed orange. It looked like a scene out of the 1983 made-for-TV movie, “The Day After,” about nuclear war.
I wasn’t the only one creeped out by the apocalyptic hue. “'A Nuclear Winter' Over Bay Area, as Wildfires Blot Out the Sun,” read a New York Times NYT. “Without the smoke, it would be a clear day,” noted a scientist. “This is all generated from the fires.”
The same mechanism that caused the orange sky is what could destroy agriculture in the wake of a thermonuclear war: particulate matter from burned wood blocking parts of the light spectrum from reaching the ground.
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And while the 2 million acres that have burned in California so far in 2020 is 10 times more area than burned in 2019, it’s still 2 million acres less than the lowest estimate for acres burned within modern state borders annually before Europeans settled in America. (underline is mine)
“California was a very smoky place historically,” says Malcolm North of the US Forest Survey.“Even though we’re seeing area burned that is off-the-charts, it’s still probably less than what used to be burned before Europeans arrived.”
Many reporters note that more area has burned this year in California than at any other point in “the modern period,” but that period began in 1950. For the last half of the 20th Century, the annual area burned in California was just 250,000 acres a year, whereas the best-available science suggests 4.4 and 12 million acres burned in California annually before the arrival of Europeans.
More at link...
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- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Bigdog (09-19-2020), dukkha (09-19-2020), ExpressLane (09-19-2020), Sailor (09-19-2020), Stretch (09-19-2020)
Fires are a natural part of the ecosystem there.
Building homes where fire is GOING to happen is as foolish as building on barrier islands
Its not if, its when.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
Bigdog (09-19-2020), ExpressLane (09-19-2020), Sailor (09-19-2020)
Humans encroach on fire prone area and whine when they get burned out.
Bigdog (09-19-2020)
You don't think it's time to get even a bit alarmed about the environment?
What would it take, exactly?
Bigdog (09-19-2020), cancel2 2022 (09-20-2020), Earl (09-20-2020), Stretch (09-19-2020)
Is that the question we need to be asking?
When have humans lost access to so much clean water & air? When have we lost so much habitat? When has the oceanic food supply been on such a brink? When have we been close to having as much plastic in the ocean as fish?
And that's just a couple hundred years into the industrial revolution.
The real question: when are we going to wake up?
martin (09-20-2020)
Pfft, they had some but they are getting so much worse and encompassing areas all over the western states due to unruly temps. Even when it rains anymore you have fire danger because of lightning. Fire is a natural part and balance to the world but things aren't balanced and these aspects in the unbalance have aggressive side effects. We've had terrible fires in the past that taught us preventative means but those means no longer do much when a stray ember can become a disaster. Being from Colorado you'd think you'd be better versed due to their brunt of the fires. While climate change has had some fruity alarmist fears it's still real and getting to a point where we will never be able to do enough for balance to return. Years ago you didn't have such abundance of fires out west that places like where I live in Michigan is getting soot in the air from them. Climate change denialists just show themselves to be babies that don't want to be less spoiled to help the world.
cancel2 2022 (09-20-2020)
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
— Joe Biden on Obama.
Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.
D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.
Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".
Earl (09-20-2020)
For years California had inmates doing brush clearance with police and firefighters present ....
STUPID liberals stopped that !
The prisoners like being able to get out of their 4 walls and would sign up for this .
I posted that already but no matter. This is a paper from the prestigious American Meteorological Society.
A “potential connection” between anthropogenic global warming and the frequency or intensity of wildfires in California has yet to emerge in the trend observations.
Scientists have found a “lack of correlation between late summer/autumn wildfires” and “summer precipitation or temperature” in coastal California. In fact, “there is no long-term trend in the number of fires over coastal California” in the last 50 years (Mass and Ovens, 2019).
https://journals.ametsoc.org/bams/ar...of-8-9-October
Last edited by cancel2 2022; 09-20-2020 at 04:55 AM.
How about some real evidence, got any,?
Official US Climate Data Reveals No Cause For Alarm
A new paper published today by the Global Warming Policy Foundation shows that U.S. climate has been changing very gradually, and mostly in a benign way.
https://www.thegwpf.org/official-us-...use-for-alarm/
https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uplo...imate-2019.pdf
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