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    Question Is there evidence that unions help DEMOCRATS in elections?



    THE RADICAL LEFTIST WASHINGTON POST SEEMS TO THINK SO




    Union endorsements will play a big role in the 2020 election ...


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/12/union-endorsements-2020/

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    Well, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Well, yes.
    I think so, too.




    Labor union unveils $150M campaign to help defeat Trump

    One of the nation’s largest labor unions is unveiling plans to invest $150 million in a nationwide campaign to help defeat President Donald Trump, a sweeping effort focused on eight battleground states and voters of color who typically don’t vote.

    The investment marks the largest voter engagement and turnout operation in the history of the Service Employees International Union, which claims nearly 2 million members. The scope of the campaign, which quietly launched last month and will run through November’s general election, reflects the urgency of what union president Mary Kay Henry calls “a make-or-break” moment for working people in America under Trump’s leadership.

    “He’s systematically unwinding and attacking unions. Federal workers rights have been totally eviscerated under his watch,” Henry said in an interview. “We are on fire about the rules being rigged against us and needing to elect people that are going to stand with workers.”

    https://apnews.com/e3645cd1d3ac6d179e2defbc9542cbb4



    But;

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs does not give the DNC an advantage in elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I think so, too.




    Labor union unveils $150M campaign to help defeat Trump

    One of the nation’s largest labor unions is unveiling plans to invest $150 million in a nationwide campaign to help defeat President Donald Trump, a sweeping effort focused on eight battleground states and voters of color who typically don’t vote.

    The investment marks the largest voter engagement and turnout operation in the history of the Service Employees International Union, which claims nearly 2 million members. The scope of the campaign, which quietly launched last month and will run through November’s general election, reflects the urgency of what union president Mary Kay Henry calls “a make-or-break” moment for working people in America under Trump’s leadership.

    “He’s systematically unwinding and attacking unions. Federal workers rights have been totally eviscerated under his watch,” Henry said in an interview. “We are on fire about the rules being rigged against us and needing to elect people that are going to stand with workers.”

    https://apnews.com/e3645cd1d3ac6d179e2defbc9542cbb4



    But;
    Republicans are able to organize in the exact same way to fund campaigns. So this doesn't mean Democrats have an advantage, just that they're able to engage in the same tactics as Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Republicans are able to organize in the exact same way to fund campaigns. So this doesn't mean Democrats have an advantage, just that they're able to engage in the same tactics as Republicans.
    Is that so?

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    Not any more. The unions have tried to stay at hands length from parties the last few years. I have worked campaigns in Detroit area for years and lots of union workers were Trumpies. We had great difficulty getting any help from them. Unions are democracies. The votes of the membership determines what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that so?
    Glad you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Glad you agree.
    I don't agree. I asked you a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    Not any more. The unions have tried to stay at hands length from parties the last few years. I have worked campaigns in Detroit area for years and lots of union workers were Trumpies. We had great difficulty getting any help from them. Unions are democracies. The votes of the membership determines what they do.
    Cool story, Nerdberg.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Cool story, Nerdberg.

    Nordberg is actually correct.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Nordberg is actually correct.
    Be prepared to experience Legion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Be prepared to experience Legion.
    As I told you before, Legion doesn't bother me.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Unverifiable personal reminiscences do not rise the level of evidence.
    And you being the right-wing version signalmankenneth doesn't rise to the level of evidence either.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    And you being the right-wing version signalmankenneth doesn't rise to the level of evidence either.
    Unverifiable personal reminiscences never rise to the level of evidence.

    If you can verify Nerdberg's story, do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    As I told you before, Legion doesn't bother me.
    Apparently he bothers so many people that they had him on ignore.

    I read his posts for amusement.

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