If DEMOCRATS ever have jobs, who pays them?

[T. A. Gardner]

For all the complaining they do about so-called “dark money” in politics, it certainly appears that those on the left are eager to get a slice of the pie — even if they possibly have to engage in some “creative accounting” to make it seem as though everything is above-board.

ActBlue is undeniably the cash cow of the "progressive" movement, boasting over $6 billion raised for favored candidates since 2004.

The organization funneled more than $1.5 billion to leftist candidates in 2018 alone, and has moved almost $900 million to assist "progressives" thus far in 2019 and 2020.

Most of these contributions, according to ActBlue, come through gift cards of $100 or less.

It does not have to reveal donor names when processing its gift cards, as is normally required for virtually all online transactions.

This allows ActBlue or a mega-donor to easily break large donations down into smaller gifts to avoid campaign finance laws and Federal Election Commission scrutiny — once an individual donor or third-party organization has given $200 or more to a candidate, for instance, their information is supposed to be added to a public FEC database for the sake of transparency.

ActBlue’s structure allows illegal donations made online to be broken down into smaller gifts from claimed U.S. sources with little chance of exposure. ActBlue’s design allows large donors to exceed contribution limits without even triggering the threshold for public reporting.

4.7 million of the 9.7 million ActBlue donors are reported to be unemployed. That’s a whopping 48.4% of all ActBlue donors in 2019-2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/09/16/actblue_raises_millions_in_suspicious_gift_card_do nations_144208.html

Gift cards? You mean one of the most shoplifted items in America? Many larger businesses now limit the purchases on gift cards to a specific amount to cut down on their fraudulent use. Gift cards are also the preferred item for phone and computer scammers.

[archives]

The results should surprise no one.

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Pretty funny considering the number of Federal employees has increased under Trump

[Legion]

Pretty funny considering the number of Federal employees has increased under Trump

Does that somehow make their union bosses' political contributions OK?

Yeah, it went up almost 4,000 over the past 4 years.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43590.pdf

He also deferred their payroll taxes, but their union still contributes to DEMOCRATS.

[StoneByStone]

Is that so? Do you have a better argument?

Yes. Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs does not give the DNC an advantage in elections.

[Legion]

Yes. Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs does not give the DNC an advantage in elections.

Is that a fact?

[StoneByStone]

Is that a fact?

No, but until there is evidence to the contrary, this should be the view.

If you're making a claim, then it's on you to present evidence for that claim. If you have enough good evidence, we can consider said claim to be a fact. However, you have failed to present any evidence that Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs actually helps Democrats in elections.

[T. A. Gardner]

Does that somehow make their union bosses' political contributions OK?

Yeah, it went up almost 4,000 over the past 4 years.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43590.pdf

He also deferred their payroll taxes, but their union still contributes to DEMOCRATS.

Actually, most government employees are not union members. They are either exempt, management, or refuse to join.

[Legion]

No, but until there is evidence to the contrary, this should be the view.

Says who? You?

Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs does not give the DNC an advantage in elections.

You just made a claim, and then admitted that it isn't factual. Is that right?

If you're making a claim, then it's on you to present evidence for that claim. If you have enough good evidence, we can consider said claim to be a fact. However, you have failed to present any evidence that Democrats being overrepresented among government jobs actually helps Democrats in elections.

I don't recall claiming that "DEMOCRATS being overrepresented among government jobs gives the DNC an advantage in elections", so there's that.

Which fallacy demands that someone defend a position they haven't taken?

[Legion]

Actually, most government employees are not union members. They are either exempt, management, or refuse to join.

Is that so?

[T. A. Gardner]

Is that so?

Yes, it is so... Starting with the DoD...

[StoneByStone]

You just made a claim, and then admitted that it isn't factual. Is that right?

A fact is a claim with evidence. I'm saying that, due to the lack of evidence, I don't think Democrats have a political advantage due to their jobs. Could my lack of belief here be wrong? Sure. But right now, I see no evidence of the contrary.


[QUOTE]I don't recall claiming that "DEMOCRATS being overrepresented among government jobs gives the DNC an advantage in elections", so there's that.

You tried comparing it to dark money.

[Legion]

A fact is a claim with evidence.

Is it?

You tried comparing it to dark money.

Did I?

[Legion]

Gift cards? You mean one of the most shoplifted items in America? Many larger businesses now limit the purchases on gift cards to a specific amount to cut down on their fraudulent use. Gift cards are also the preferred item for phone and computer scammers.

And ActBlue, a major source of DEMOCRAT funding, according to the evidence.

[T. A. Gardner]

And ActBlue, a major source of DEMOCRAT funding, according to the evidence.

Maybe the looters are making donations...

[Legion]

Maybe the looters are making donations...

Or perhaps whoever is backing them financially is buying gift cards which cannot be traced in order to circumvent campaign finance law.

4.7 million of the 9.7 million ActBlue donors are reported to be unemployed.

That’s a whopping 48.4% of all ActBlue donors in 2019-2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/09/16/actblue_raises_millions_in_suspicious_gift_card_do nations_144208.html