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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Alt-Walt is a CCP asset lol.
    Alt-Walt, brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    It's not an argument for testing less. In the first place in more than half of positive tests there is also illness. In the second place, tests help get an early indication of the illness. In the third place, testing shows where the virus is spreading if you simply accept a percentage of the positive test results as a guide. This is grammar school level reasoning.
    Roughly half of positives tests leads to infection lol.

    Roughly half. What about the other half?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Alt-Walt, brilliant!
    Alter-Walter.

    Don’t encourage me lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Roughly half of positives tests leads to infection lol.

    Roughly half. What about the other half?
    The other half do get the infection. I realize going from point A to point B is a hurdle for you.

    I should have added: in the fourth place, being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are not contagious. You can still spread the disease so it is certainly of use that you were tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The other half do get the infection. I realize going from point A to point B is a hurdle for you.

    I should have added: in the fourth place, being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are not contagious. You can still spread the disease so it is certainly of use that you were tested.
    Condescending cunt, I just love alliteration!

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The other half do get the infection. I realize going from point A to point B is a hurdle for you.

    I should have added: in the fourth place, being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are not contagious. You can still spread the disease so it is certainly of use that you were tested.
    Darth is a operating theatre technician ffs, that's why you're a condescending cunt,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Condescending cunt, I just love alliteration!
    You mean like "extraneous evidence". His occupation doesn't make a damn bit of difference. There's either a good answer to those four arguments or there isn't.

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    We should stop testing then, he's found the cure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The other half do get the infection. I realize going from point A to point B is a hurdle for you.

    I should have added: in the fourth place, being asymptomatic doesn't mean you are not contagious. You can still spread the disease so it is certainly of use that you were tested.
    You don’t understand the problem with PCR tests.

    When they are cycled too high they can pick up DNA fragments of other Corona viruses or fragments of past COVID infection. IOW, they aren’t COVID positive *in any sense* but they get labeled ‘asymptomatic carrier’.
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    Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

    Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/h...s-testing.html
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    PCR data is largely junk. Roughly half junk—by your own admission. This includes deaths that have been attributed to COVID based on PCR testing. How many patients died of X but since their PCR test was cycled 35-40 times it wrung up as ‘COVID positive’ and a COVID death?

    At some point this whole business is going to get a hard look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You don’t understand the problem with PCR tests.

    When they are cycled too high they can pick up DNA fragments of other Corona viruses or fragments of past COVID infection. IOW, they aren’t COVID positive *in any sense* but they get labeled ‘asymptomatic carrier’.
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    Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

    Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/h...s-testing.html
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    PCR data is largely junk. Roughly half junk—by your own admission. This includes deaths that have been attributed to COVID based on PCR testing. How many patients died of X but since their PCR test was cycled 35-40 times it wrung up as ‘COVID positive’ and a COVID death?

    At some point this whole business is going to get a hard look.
    That's a real answer. I'm not qualified to refute it. Without testing, however, flawed as it may be, how is this country or any country - and every country is testing - to get any kind of handle on the pandemic? New York tested hard after it was hit, imposed restrictions, lifted them only when the results seemed to justify it, and that seems to have pretty
    much worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    “If we didn’t do testing we wouldn’t have cases.”

    Trump said this again the other day. He was heavily criticized the first time he said it many months ago. Didn’t sink in. It couldn’t sink in because in Trump’s alternate reality what only matters is Trump’s re-election, that is, whatever is good for Donald Trump, and for that lots of virus cases are not good.

    But give him credit. He’s not afraid to admit it. Though his remark is ho hum to his admiring followers like every other maddening thing he says, he needs to attract other voters if he’s going to win and saying, in effect, he doesn’t care if they get sick can’t help to lure them.

    Trump is a liar of unprecedented proportion in the history of the Presidency. At the same time, he's not a faker. He won the last time by being himself since he can't credibly be anything else. When he surrenders to a teleprompter he seems like a puppet that got put up there. But when he lets it all hang out the mendacity and ignorance roll right off him in the eyes of millions of voters and in 2016 they were barely enough, and in the right places, to win.

    So far the real Trump is not doing as well as he did then, against "lying Hillary". This might be because Biden doesn't have her baggage but also because voters have had a better look at the real liar.
    "If the president had done his job... had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," the Democratic presidential nominee told the audience in Pennsylvania. All the people ....said Biden


    So Biden thinks the President could have prevented every single death

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    "If the president had done his job... had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," the Democratic presidential nominee told the audience in Pennsylvania. All the people ....said Biden


    So Biden think there would be ZERO deaths
    Well, Trump himself said it would go from 15 down to zero. Soooo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Are you serious?????????????????
    Yes. Are you capable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    If you've been completely snowed in by Trump, then you're a hopeless case.
    Completely snowed? What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    You've forgotten your favorite songs:

    "Lying Hillary".
    My favorite song?

    You must have me confused with someone else.

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