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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The Democrat leadership isn't a "Triumvirate," its a Politburo.
    It's a Triumvirate, they'll just claim it's a politburo. You know, like Napoleon and Snowball claimed they spoke for all the farm animals.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    Not exactly.

    My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

    Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.
    While I agree, Biden also lays out the far Left agenda on his website. It's the same LW agenda since the Clintons rolled into two and started fleecing the DNC.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It's a Triumvirate, they'll just claim it's a politburo. You know, like Napoleon and Snowball claimed they spoke for all the farm animals.
    A "politburo" is what Communists and Socialists form with their old school leaders who cling to power as they slowly spiral to death in their later years like a gecko clings to a wall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A "politburo" is what Communists and Socialists form with their old school leaders who cling to power as they slowly spiral to death in their later years like a gecko clings to a wall...
    That's what they called it, but that's not what it was. It was a Totalitarians Socialist state.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
    - Dan Rather, Jun 22, 2020

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    Biden is a hat........Pelosi is a hat.......Schumer is a hat........three hats is not a hat trick.......
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    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    While I agree, Biden also lays out the far Left agenda on his website. It's the same LW agenda since the Clintons rolled into two and started fleecing the DNC.
    Wrong.

    Biden is much closer to the center.

    'Far left' is closer to AOC and Bernie.

    Trump has unsuccessfully tried to paint Biden with the 'far left' brush, but it's just not sticking.

    Biden is closer to the center.

    When much of the primary slate was calling for Medicare For All, Biden said no. Biden stuck to his plan to offer Public Option. Biden has not adopted the GND.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Wrong.

    Biden is much closer to the center.

    'Far left' is closer to AOC and Bernie.

    Trump has unsuccessfully tried to paint Biden with the 'far left' brush, but it's just not sticking.

    Biden is closer to the center.

    When much of the primary slate was calling for Medicare For All, Biden said no. Biden stuck to his plan to offer Public Option. Biden has not adopted the GND.
    Agreed, Biden is closer to center than AOC or the other LWLs. That doesn't mean he's a moderate or Center-Left. It just means Biden as not as far Left as the LWLs on the far right.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
    - Dan Rather, Jun 22, 2020

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    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed, Biden is closer to center than AOC or the other LWLs. That doesn't mean he's a moderate or Center-Left. It just means Biden as not as far Left as the LWLs on the far right.
    Well, since most people on the right have a deep seated fear of being called 'liberal' or 'RINO,' (would shake them to the core) and sometimes consider Republicans who don't tow the line to be 'too liberal,' they usually have trouble even naming any Democrat who they don't consider 'far left.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    Not exactly.

    My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

    Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.
    dude.....it IS exactly......Trump won because our motivation was based on Hilliary's record........this time around, we will vote for him BECAUSE of his record.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The Democrat leadership isn't a "Triumvirate," its a Politburo.
    Our current president is a Trump-triumph-irate.......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Well, since most people on the right have a deep seated fear of being called 'liberal' or 'RINO,' (would shake them to the core) and sometimes consider Republicans who don't tow the line to be 'too liberal,' they usually have trouble even naming any Democrat who they don't consider 'far left.'
    Most people on the Right today would call Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan RINOs and harass them into leaving the Republican party. This transition has taken place over the past 30 years since the Cold War ended but, IMO, began when Reagan allowed Jerry Falwell's Christian Coalition a seat at the table in the Republican party. The next big transition was Newt Gingrich's angry white man movement. Their first accomplishment was to kill the GOP and replace it with Neo-Cons. The Iraq War tarnished the Neo-Con reputation. The ideas of the Tea Party had been around for a few years before it actually formed in 2009, IIRC. It was a great idea which was quickly perverted by the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey on the national stage.

    Any revolution is dicey because it means tearing down the old structure meaning 'there's no structure". Chaos can take over. The American Revolution was a rarity where a government was formed relatively quickly and ordered maintained. The French and Russian revolutions are more typical cluster fucks filled with warring factions, a lot of death and eventual despotism. This is what happened after the GOP collapsed. Like France, the Republican party has ended up with a Little Emperor and the nation is worse for it.

    This doesn't mean I favor Democrats because I do not; their far Left agenda goes beyond "bleeding heart liberals" and into Totalitarian Socialist territory.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    dude.....it IS exactly......Trump won because our motivation was based on Hilliary's record........this time around, we will vote for him BECAUSE of his record.......
    Partly agreed Trump won more because of Hillary's corruption than himself. Disagreed he'll be elected because of his record. If Trump wins it's because Americans fear a Democrat Triumvirate.

    FWIW, any political party that puts limiting freedoms as it's primary agenda goals is an unAmerican party. It doesn't matter if it's trying to ban abortion or guns, ban gays or 36 oz drinks, it's all bad because it restricts the rights of Americans citizens to choose.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
    - Dan Rather, Jun 22, 2020

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    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Most people on the Right today would call Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan RINOs and harass them into leaving the Republican party. This transition has taken place over the past 30 years since the Cold War ended but, IMO, began when Reagan allowed Jerry Falwell's Christian Coalition a seat at the table in the Republican party. The next big transition was Newt Gingrich's angry white man movement. Their first accomplishment was to kill the GOP and replace it with Neo-Cons. The Iraq War tarnished the Neo-Con reputation. The ideas of the Tea Party had been around for a few years before it actually formed in 2009, IIRC. It was a great idea which was quickly perverted by the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey on the national stage.

    Any revolution is dicey because it means tearing down the old structure meaning 'there's no structure". Chaos can take over. The American Revolution was a rarity where a government was formed relatively quickly and ordered maintained. The French and Russian revolutions are more typical cluster fucks filled with warring factions, a lot of death and eventual despotism. This is what happened after the GOP collapsed. Like France, the Republican party has ended up with a Little Emperor and the nation is worse for it.

    This doesn't mean I favor Democrats because I do not; their far Left agenda goes beyond "bleeding heart liberals" and into Totalitarian Socialist territory.
    The vast majority of the left does not want a 'Totalitarian Socialist ' country. This fear which grips the right is totally unfounded. It's pure exaggeration. An example of propaganda which has been incredibly effective. It's why many Republicans have a difficult time distinguishing between socialism and communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Our current president is a Trump-triumph-irate.......
    Cute. You get an attaboy for effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Dutch Uncle,

    The vast majority of the left does not want a 'Totalitarian Socialist ' country. This fear which grips the right is totally unfounded. It's pure exaggeration. An example of propaganda which has been incredibly effective. It's why many Republicans have a difficult time distinguishing between socialism and communism.
    Just like the far Right does not want a Nazi country, but both sides support the element of each. It's a transition and those are steps towards it.

    Here's the Litmus Test: Does a victimless law grant more freedom or less? If less, it's a bad law.
    A rule of thumb: If you're lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you're limiting polling places, if you're forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you're basically admitting most Americans don't want you to be president.
    - Dan Rather, Jun 22, 2020

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