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    You have to an imbecil to trust Trump over the scientific community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    If you have a problem with the way any of this happened, talk with your Governors. They made all the decisions. If that truth gives you a headache, oh fucking well..
    The topic of this thread is separate from individual mistakes that were made.

    This thread is about Trump's campaign of confusion. He has consistently contradicted experts, offered unsubstantiated opinions, given mixed messages & offered much rosier estimates than science or reality would dictate (such as claiming the virus would disappear w/ the warm weather, and now contradicting every health organization on the timeline for a vaccine).

    I just don't know how anyone can look at how he has spoken & behaved and think that this is the leader for these times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s the drum they’re going to beat all the way to November.

    Democrats are determined to make this a one issue election but the economy and crime/chaos are starting to resonate with voters.
    Trump's crisis management is 100% legit as a campaign issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Trump's crisis management is 100% legit as a campaign issue.
    Milk it lol.

    You don’t think crime/chaos/economy are issues?
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Milk it lol.

    You don’t think crime/chaos/economy are issues?
    Did I say that Trump's crisis management was the ONLY issue?

    No, I did not. Those are all issues. But when faced with a pandemic, we have seen Trump's true colors as a "leader," and I used that last term VERY loosely.

    You don't want the election to be a referendum on that. But it's a pretty big issue, so you won't get your wish on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Did I say that Trump's crisis management was the ONLY issue?

    No, I did not. Those are all issues. But when faced with a pandemic, we have seen Trump's true colors as a "leader," and I used that last term VERY loosely.

    You don't want the election to be a referendum on that. But it's a pretty big issue, so you won't get your wish on that.
    If you want to win an election you have to think past the Bubble.

    Yes, according to democrats it’s Trump’s virus; 200,000 yada yada yada. But Biden needs more than just democrats. You need to consider the possibility that independents might consider that idea to be a tad simple-minded—because it IS.

    Also, the notion that Trump’s pre-COVID economy was actually Obama’s economy very nearly demands an ideological commitment to Obama. IOW, there’s absolutely no guarantee that is going to play well—beyond Democrat voters.

    The violence/chaos in the streets hasn’t exactly gone on unnoticed even as the Biden campaign went to great lengths to ‘not notice it’—until the polls started to reflect it.

    If you think this is going to be a ‘COVID election’ you and the democrats may be in for a rude awakening in November.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Trump lied. You are a pathetic moron.
    1) COVID19 is bad

    2) Many people die

    3) Wait for vaccine and therapeutics

    Everything else is politics and semantics
    Did I lie? Keep the politics out of this and just listen to the scientists, that way your little rat brain won't be so "confused" now, will it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    Did I lie? Keep the politics out of this and just listen to the scientists, that way your little rat brain won't be so "confused" now, will it?
    fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    This is leadership?

    The latest contradiction w/ the head of the CDC is just the most recent example. But from the start, he has knowingly deceived the public every step of the way: about how serious the threat was, about the #'s, about the timeline for a vaccine, about various treatments, about masks, disinfectant, shutdowns, and every other aspect of this pandemic.

    And polls are now showing the results: Americans describe themselves as confused, and not knowing who or what to believe.

    People don't want to hear it, and I won't use the "H" word - but this is straight out of every dictator wannabe's playbook. Confusing the public + discrediting all other sources of information = increased reliance on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If you want to win an election you have to think past the Bubble.

    Yes, according to democrats it’s Trump’s virus; 200,000 yada yada yada. But Biden needs more than just democrats. You need to consider the possibility that independents might consider that idea to be a tad simple-minded—because it IS.

    Also, the notion that Trump’s pre-COVID economy was actually Obama’s economy very nearly demands an ideological commitment to Obama. IOW, there’s absolutely no guarantee that is going to play well—beyond Democrat voters.

    The violence/chaos in the streets hasn’t exactly gone on unnoticed even as the Biden campaign went to great lengths to ‘not notice it’—until the polls started to reflect it.

    If you think this is going to be a ‘COVID election’ you and the democrats may be in for a rude awakening in November.
    There is really nothing simple-minded about observing a President spend an entire pandemic deceiving Americans and creating confusion & determining that you don't want that in a leader.

    Personally, I think independents care about that. Part of the job of President is dealing with crisis.

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    Trump put excruciating pressure on blue states to open up too soon. He is doing it now with the Pac 10 in football ,telling them to start playing. Trump has used the bully pulpit, like a real bully. He is trying to force companies and schools to open up when they are not ready. So, some people will get sick and some will die. This is about something far more important than life and death. It us about Trumps election chances. He would be happy if the whole country opened tomorrow. The deaths would mean nothing to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You don’t think crime/chaos/economy are issues?
    trump has failed on crime, chaos, economics, and even health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has failed on crime, chaos, economics, and even health.
    Again, you’re banking on independents accepting all that and it’s not exactly a logical necessity.

    In fact, they would have to reduce democrats to impotent wallflowers in terms of the violence in democrat cities. Which in fact they were. Democrats own the Orwellian ‘summer of love’ in Portland. Democrats and their media lap dogs didn’t exactly focus on it but many voters of different stripes were watching and thinking.

    And you expect them to pin that on Trump? You expect them to ‘not notice’ Democrats not saying a word about it in their convention? Not notice, that Biden didn’t start talking about it until he was basically forced to?

    Democrats are expecting a lot of ‘not noticing’ from people outside of their own party. And it’s almost certain many of their own voters have ‘noticed some things’ about their own party over ‘the summer of love’.

    I read where the homicide rate jumped 50%[!] this year. That’s certainly noticeable. Trump’s fault? Really? Local governments are blameless? If so, what do they do, exactly? Why do they exist?

    Trump had some pretty decent approval numbers on the economy before the China Virus that came from China got here. As mentioned, not all voters have an ideological commitment to Obama, such that they were still calling it ‘Obama’s economy’ three full years into the next presidency.

    Not the way it usually works and you’re asking them to make an exception.

    And since the *policy response put in place by governors* ruined Trump’s economy, who should independents trust to revive it, Trump or Harris-Biden?

    To very many of them, that answer should be easy enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Trump was offering supplies, ventilators, everything Coumo was asking for. Coumo even commended Trump for it. You have a short, partisan attention span. NY city asshole.
    Archives is an asshole to be sure, but more importantly, he's just not very bright. I'm trying to be kind.
    Every life matters

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