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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
I've said this many times before. The radical Right is much better at killing people individually. They act alone in individual acts, like McVeigh did. The radical Left creates large amounts of low grade violence--property destruction, looting, graffiti, trashing city downtowns, and things like beating people but not normally killing them. Compared, the radical Left easily does ten if not a hundred times or more economic damage than the radical Right.
So, if you are counting who does what, other than a body count, the radical Left is far, far more dangerous than the radical Right. But those most loudly calling the radical Right more dangerous omit everything but the body count in claiming that. They do it on purpose because to do otherwise would squarely put the blame on the radical Left as the bigger threat to society--which it is.
I'd also say that the residents of Seattle, Portland, SF, Milwaukee, Chicago, NYC, etc., would all heartily disagree with you that Right Wing violence is their biggest threat. It isn't White Supremacists out in the streets of say Portland for the last four months burning down the city.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Hello T. A. Gardner,
OK, let's unpack that for a moment.
The protestors carrying signs are not the same people who are looting.
Opportunists take advantage of the situation when there are lots of people in the streets and police are well occupied.
It has been shown that in many instances the ones who smash windows are actually right wing provocateurs.
And for the ones who take advantage of an open store and come out with some food, how can it be determined what their politics are?
Laying this all on the left doorstep is an assumption, not a fact.
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How do you differentiate when they mix together, like they frequently do?
So? How do we know the politics of those "opportunists?"Opportunists take advantage of the situation when there are lots of people in the streets and police are well occupied.
I doubt that seriously. You might be able to show one, two, or a few cases, but the vast majority of these occur in the middle of a Leftist protest.It has been shown that in many instances the ones who smash windows are actually right wing provocateurs.
Looting is looting. Doesn't matter what the goods taken are.And for the ones who take advantage of an open store and come out with some food, how can it be determined what their politics are?
Laying this all on the left doorstep is an assumption, not a fact.
Also, violence at Leftist protests is nothing new. It occurs at virtually every one of them. It isn't some new or recent phenomena, nor is it confined to the US.
Hello T. A. Gardner,
What's to stop a RW extremist from coming out during a BLM protest and instigating violence?
Especially when they believe it will be attributed to the left?
It's not like the protests are so organized that they have lists of attendees. Anybody who wants to can come out and join in. Nobody is going to ask their politics. The way RW trolls act in forums like this, it suggests that is exactly what they would do. Their hatred is all-consuming. They believe the ends justify the means. They get swept up with excitement over having their 15 minutes of fame. Why did RW James Alex Fields Jr. do what he did? It was out of hatred. He felt that the law was worth breaking to make his political point. He plead guilty to hate crimes to avoid the death penalty.
That kind of hatred is easily enough to justify joining in with a BLM protest with nefarious intent to provoke violence and looting. Especially when they can mask up and have some belief they might never be identified.
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I never saw an individual with a protest sign break away from a group of sign-carrying protestors in the middle of the day and go smash a business window to grab merchandise. Never saw one carrying a sign in one hand and throwing projectiles with the other.
The merit-driven sign-carrying protestors exercising their 1st Amendment rights in the daytime are not the same people who are out there in the middle of the night rioting.
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Biden supporters should be assassinated, exterminated by any means necessary.
If it takes few trucks driven into crowds to crush free-elections and pave the way for a right-wing nationalist coup, so be it.
Hitler didn't pull any punches during the Night of the Long Knives, neither did the Bolsheviks; nor should the New Wave of right-wing nationalists.
The correct way for any well-intended fascist to "win" the election is simply to crush, terrorize the opposition until they have to fear for their life if they dare show up at a voting booth; simply eliminate "free" elections in any thing but name, leave the candidate most conductive to fascist ideals the only electable candidate, and we "win" without the opposition even bothering to show up.
The truth is that men are tired of liberty. - Benito Mussolini
"Freedom" in elections, speech, thought, and belief is a cancer and blight upon the nation which the nationalist right should suppress by any means necessary; the only "true" freedom worth desiring is the freedom for the strong to rule and dominate the weak by the virtue of force and and evolutionary might alone.
(This of course, means kill all untermensch who oppose us, be it liberals, atheists, libertarians, archaic "Constitutionalists" who believe that rights come from their imaginary "god" rather than might and power alone - or even mainstream "right wingers" who refuse to bow to the power of fascism.
Once America and Russia become fascist, hopefully we'll have the military power to force fascism on the rest of the world as well, and begin the realization of a New World Order - 1 world, 1 language, 1 culture, 1 race, 1 religion, 1 doctrine, imposed by the strong on the weak by force; a global, fascist transnationalist order.
Last edited by MarcusA; 09-17-2020 at 03:17 PM.
Appears the bogeyman Antifa, as everyone has been telling the right for years, isn't a "group" which makes it pretty difficult for them to be "protesting"
"FBI's Wray says Antifa more an ideology than a group, undercutting statements by other Trump officials"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ments-n1240317
As long as it's only Jews, liberals, progressives, traitors, and other untermensch who are on the receiving end of the violence, I don't think much of value will be lost. Violence is a wonderful way to win at any cost. Why play "nice" with untermensch who ultimately belong in a gas chamber anyway?
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