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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    He pulled a Sully.
    It's a lot dicier landing on land. If he hooked a wingtip, it would make for a very bad day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It's a lot dicier landing on land. If he hooked a wingtip, it would make for a very bad day.
    Yes I saw that in the video. Co-pilot told him to watch out for that tree(?) on the left. Whew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Are you trying to bug Grajonca? If so, you might be doing a good job.
    Part of my Life's Work here at JPP.

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    FWIW I've met Captain Sullivan a couple times at annual ALPA Safety conference in DC. Really nice guy and very humble. Part of that is because he knows as well as most airline pilots that it was partially his fault.

    His mistake is in the CVR transcript: https://www.tailstrike.com/150109.htm
    15:26:07 HOT-1 fifteen.
    15:26:08 HOT-2 fifteen. climb.
    15:26:10 HOT-1 climb set.
    15:26:16 HOT-2 and flaps one please.
    15:26:17 HOT-1 flaps one.
    15:26:37 HOT-1 uh what a view of the Hudson today.
    15:26:42 HOT-2 yeah.
    15:26:52 HOT-2 flaps up please, after takeoff checklist.
    15:26:54 HOT-1 flaps up.
    15:27:07 HOT-1 after takeoff checklist complete.
    15:27:10.4 HOT-1 birds.
    15:27:11 HOT-2 whoa.
    15:27:11.4 CAM [sound of thump/thud(s) followed by shuddering sound]
    15:27:12 HOT-2 oh #.
    15:27:13 HOT-1 oh yeah.
    15:27:13 CAM [sound similar to decrease in engine noise/frequency begins]
    15:27:14 HOT-2 uh oh.
    15:27:15 HOT-1 we got one rol- both of 'em rolling back.
    15:27:18 CAM [rumbling sound begins and continues until approximately 15:28:08]
    15:27:18.5 HOT-1 ignition, start.
    15:27:21.3 HOT-1 I'm starting the APU.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    FWIW I've met Captain Sullivan a couple times at annual ALPA Safety conference in DC. Really nice guy and very humble. Part of that is because he knows as well as most airline pilots that it was partially his fault.

    His mistake is in the CVR transcript: https://www.tailstrike.com/150109.htm
    15:26:07 HOT-1 fifteen.
    15:26:08 HOT-2 fifteen. climb.
    15:26:10 HOT-1 climb set.
    15:26:16 HOT-2 and flaps one please.
    15:26:17 HOT-1 flaps one.
    15:26:37 HOT-1 uh what a view of the Hudson today.
    15:26:42 HOT-2 yeah.
    15:26:52 HOT-2 flaps up please, after takeoff checklist.
    15:26:54 HOT-1 flaps up.
    15:27:07 HOT-1 after takeoff checklist complete.
    15:27:10.4 HOT-1 birds.
    15:27:11 HOT-2 whoa.
    15:27:11.4 CAM [sound of thump/thud(s) followed by shuddering sound]
    15:27:12 HOT-2 oh #.
    15:27:13 HOT-1 oh yeah.
    15:27:13 CAM [sound similar to decrease in engine noise/frequency begins]
    15:27:14 HOT-2 uh oh.
    15:27:15 HOT-1 we got one rol- both of 'em rolling back.
    15:27:18 CAM [rumbling sound begins and continues until approximately 15:28:08]
    15:27:18.5 HOT-1 ignition, start.
    15:27:21.3 HOT-1 I'm starting the APU.
    What mistake? He was enjoying the view? LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Are you trying to bug Grajonca? If so, you might be doing a good job.
    I thought he might have something interesting and relevant to say, seeing as he lives there. However sadly Mr. Meoff is never far away, must be the time of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Yes I saw that in the video. Co-pilot told him to watch out for that tree(?) on the left. Whew.
    There's higher risk of hitting something on land, but it can happen on water too as with Ethiopian Airlines flight 961 in the video below.

    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    What mistake? He was enjoying the view? LOL.
    That's the problem. To see the Hudson on climbout out he has to be looking out the side window. He wasn't looking straight ahead to spot the flock of geese...which is pretty fucking hard to miss if you're looking at them.

    I have the highest respect for Captain Sullivan. He and his First Officer, Jeffrey Skiles, did an excellent job putting it down safely and getting everyone off the aircraft. Sully ran to the back of a sinking airplane to make sure no one was left aboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    That's the problem. To see the Hudson on climbout out he has to be looking out the side window. He wasn't looking straight ahead to spot the flock of geese...which is pretty fucking hard to miss if you look at them.
    Hmm. Now that's interesting. I wonder why they didn't mention that in the movie? Maybe they don't want to show his faults?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    There's higher risk of hitting something on land, but it can happen on water too as with Ethiopian Airlines flight 961 in the video below.

    Oh my gosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Hmm. Now that's interesting. I wonder why they didn't mention that in the movie? Maybe they don't want to show his faults?
    Because, like reporters, Hollywood assholes don't know shit about flying. Hollywood movies with airplanes in them almost always have some major bullshit in them.....a fact my wife found out when we first started dating and we'd watch a movie with flying in it. She'd be watching, getting into the drama and I'd suddenly shout "Bullshit!" Some are pretty bad such as going from the cabin into the cargo compartment or some nonsense about pressurization.

    From Sully's flight:
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Oh my gosh.
    A lot more people would have survived but they inflated their floatation vests inside the aircraft and ended up drowning. It pays to pay attention to the flight attendant briefing and reading the safety card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    A lot more people would have survived but they inflated their floatation vests inside the aircraft and ended up drowning. It pays to pay attention to the flight attendant briefing and reading the safety card.
    Panic is a ugly thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Panic is a ugly thing.
    Agreed. So is complacency and ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed. So is complacency and ignorance.
    I was thinking about that. Apparently Sully was so complacent after so many years as a pilot. It's human nature.

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