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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalDave View Post
    What most dipshits won't realize is that once facts become political, we go down the fucking drain. We sit here bitching about what is true based on personal biases rather than the evidence that derived those facts. Scientific-American has never endorsed a president because they are supporting fact based approaches to solve problems. But now, we have a president who basically refuses to acknowledge facts, and just responds with 'Nuh uh', and all his supports chant 'Yay! Way to tell 'em! I'm on team dumbass!' It's gotten fucking ridiculous. So, here we are. Science doesn't support this administration, because he's a dumbass who doesn't listen, and his supporters are right there with him.
    While I agree, I think a science mouthpiece cedes ground when it gets political. I agree attacking this potus is a "fact based approach" to solving a problem, but
    I want science above that fray and prefer like minded citizens who support science carrying that water. It undercuts the premise to fight on their turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalDave View Post
    So they warned of the anti-science stances of Trump in 2016 (which they were right on), and mentioned that a Republican was worried that the party was going to be known as the Anti-Science party (which it is now). Well shit, they sure as fuck called that!
    and 2012 and 2007

    you see the pattern? - every 4 years they wring their hands and repeat the manta about how hard it is to do this, but boy is it important

    and suckers fall for the shiny hook with no worm on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    While I agree, I think a science mouthpiece cedes ground when it gets political. I agree attacking this potus is a "fact based approach" to solving a problem,
    I want science above that fray, and let like minded people carrying that water. It undercuts the premise to fight on their turf.
    I'm right there with you. I think they make a mistake by doing this because they add fuel to the fire for the anti-science crowd, but I agree with their stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The problem goes to credibility. It's like virginity; you can't unfuck a virgin. Once a credible, non-partisan, scientific magazine enters politics, then they are no longer a credible, non-partisan, scientific magazine. They are something in between. They can't unfuck it so I expect you'll see them become even more political in the future.

    Maybe this is just a marketing scheme in a country that reads more issues of People than Scientific American. It is, after all, all about the money with any corporation.
    I love this guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    An idiot could frame it that way but it just shows science has lost it's objectivity and is a political tool.
    An idiot could frame it that way but the fact remains we're talking about a magazine owned by capitalists, not "science" itself since that would be anthropomorphizing a method of study...which would be fucking moronic, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalDave View Post
    I'm right there with you. I think they make a mistake by doing this because they add fuel to the fire for the anti-science crowd, but I agree with their stance.
    why isn't the fight against hydroxycloroquine anti-science?

    the claim of police brutality is a lie (Actuarial science)

    global warming - have the marxist explain how taking from the few so the many can consume more will work - seems pretty anti science to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I love this guy!
    TBH, I hated the fucking boat. Shore leave was a lot more fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    why isn't the fight against hydroxycloroquine anti-science?

    the claim of police brutality is a lie (Actuarial science)

    global warming - have the marxist explain how taking from the few so the many can consume more will work - seems pretty anti science to me
    No, the support of HCQ is anti-science. That's the problem when people mix politics and science. The Democrats did it with global warming and the Republicans, predictably, went fucking nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Ever notice how white Democrats always go after the black guy?
    Only the RW black guys. They do the same to black gals too....and with a lot more venom than white gals. I always thought odd about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No, the support of HCQ is anti-science.
    not support - study.

    what is anti-science is claiming a medicine that has been used for 60 years with little side effects is extremely dangerous and can't be investigated - and that is being decided by democratic politicians

    https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronaviru...oroquine-study

    Quote Originally Posted by real science
    The most well-accepted and definitive method to determine the efficacy of a treatment is a double-blind, randomized clinical trial. However, this type of study takes a long time to design, execute and analyze. Therefore, a whole scientific field exists in which scientists examine how a drug is working in the real world to get as best an answer as they can as soon as possible. These types of studies can be done much more rapidly with data that is already available, usually from medical records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Only the RW black guys. They do the same to black gals too....and with a lot more venom than white gals. I always thought odd about them.
    They get upset when someone actually escapes the plantation.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    They get upset when someone actually escapes the plantation.....
    It’s sad you think Blacks are still on the plantation because they don’t agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It’s sad you think Blacks are still on the plantation because they don’t agree with you.
    Not at all. Unlike Joe Biden and Democrats I think every black person has the right to be an individual and think independently. Same for everyone else in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    why isn't the fight against hydroxycloroquine anti-science?

    the claim of police brutality is a lie (Actuarial science)

    global warming - have the marxist explain how taking from the few so the many can consume more will work - seems pretty anti science to me
    HQC isn't proven to be effective, so you're going to have to show me some proof that it is. I'm not digging through posts again to find some random time you talked about it either, cite your source when you speak to me and quit wasting my time, cock. George Floyd getting a knee on his neck for 8:46 was police brutality, and there are plenty more examples of it, so I don't even know what the fuck clouds you're yelling at with that one. It's just a weird ass claim without context. Same with your next statement. You're ranting and not making sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    They get upset when someone actually escapes the plantation.....
    Even though the clear racial bias is disturbing, I strongly doubt any Democrats want to enslave anyone....again.
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