First ever presidential endorsement by Scientific American

[Doc Dutch]

who gives a fuck? I don't care if your are a phony libertarian-lite in a debate

this is about the anti -science zeal behind stopping the ability to study a drug that has long been considered safe in non - hospital settings

You obviously care. Otherwise you wouldn't be having a conniption over a discussion about science and HCQ.

[zymurgy]

You obviously care. Otherwise you wouldn't be having a conniption over a discussion about science and HCQ.

I care about policy - not what some dipwad personally thinks

your vanity is showing

[Doc Dutch]

I care about policy - not what some dipwad personally thinks

your vanity is showing

Dude, you're the one throwing the hissy fit. I'm the one who advocates you having as much HCQ as you want.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Dude, you're the one throwing the hissy fit. I'm the one who advocates you having as much HCQ as you want.

He could take it with bleach. Highly recommended.

[Doc Dutch]

He could take it with bleach. Highly recommended.

I would support that adult choice too.

[zymurgy]

Dude, you're the one throwing the hissy fit. I'm the one who advocates you having as much HCQ as you want.

hissy fit?



I am in a debate of ideas. that you have to turn it into something emotional is laughable.

also - I have an autoimmune - of course I can have as much of it as I want - that is the point - it has long been considered safe outside of hospital settings.

[Doc Dutch]

hissy fit?



I am in a debate of ideas. that you have to turn it into something emotional is laughable.

also - I have an autoimmune - of course I can have as much of it as I want - that is the point - it has long been considered safe outside of hospital settings.

Yes. You're the one becoming so emotional about this. I'm just agreeing to let you shoot, snort, ingest or use as much HCQ as a suppository as you wish. You seem to object to whatever I say. Why the drama?

I care about policy - not what some dipwad personally thinks

your vanity is showing

who gives a fuck? I don't care if your are a phony libertarian-lite in a debate

this is about the anti -science zeal behind stopping the ability to study a drug that has long been considered safe in non - hospital settings

no

I said it is laughable to use its danger as a reason for scientists to not be allowed to study its effectiveness - the reason it is the first use in other diseases of inflammation is because of its relative harmlessness

BTW- your reading comprehension is shit. I did not say it helped me - I said it is the first one they try.

[zymurgy]

Yes. You're the one becoming so emotional about this. I'm just agreeing to let you shoot, snort, ingest or use as much HCQ as a suppository as you wish. You seem to object to whatever I say. Why the drama?

you are the least smelly shit stain of the shit stains - for a brief while you almost seemed intelligent

[Doc Dutch]

you are the least smelly shit stain of the shit stains - for a brief while you almost seemed intelligent

ROFL. Thanks for proving you're a Drama Queen. Too bad you can't actually cash that crown in for money, eh?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

this is about the anti -science zeal behind stopping the ability to study a drug that has long been considered safe in non - hospital settings

Two major clinical trials of HCQ for Covid-19, one in the US and one in the UK, were stopped last June when the results showed that HCQ had no effect on mortality.

The UK trial, run by the University of Oxford, enrolled more than 11,000 patients.
"We have concluded that there is no beneficial effect of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized with COVID-19," the Oxford study said.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-06-05...ients-covid-19

But He Who Can Never Be Wrong has pronounced HCQ a "game changer". Is there an international conspiracy aimed at prolonging the pandemic and undermining the President? What do you think?

[zymurgy]

Two major clinical trials of HCQ for Covid-19, one in the US and one in the UK, were stopped last June when the results showed that HCQ had no effect on mortality.

The UK trial, run by the University of Oxford, enrolled more than 11,000 patients.
"We have concluded that there is no beneficial effect of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized with COVID-19," the Oxford study said.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-06-05...ients-covid-19

But He Who Can Never Be Wrong has pronounced HCQ a "game changer". Is there an international conspiracy aimed at prolonging the pandemic and undermining the President? What do you think?

doctors have you stay on hcq for 4-6 months before moving on to a more aggressive form of treatment - because it doesn't have immediate benefits, but it does show as beneficial in relation to inflammation and also to to cytokine storms when used for long periods. Those are the studies many scientists are interested in seeing conducted in regards to covid-19

too many people go down your road of politicizing it and making this be about trump. shit stains everywhere

[zymurgy]

You want Covid patients to be on HCQ for 4-6 months?

your wording is illogical. I would approve of a study of high risk patients taking this medicine prior to getting covid - yes

immune compromised people are inexplicably doing better then groups with less serious health issues - like obesity - that is a strange stat that should be explored

[Stretch]

America's preeminent scientific journal


Scientific American Endorses Joe Biden

We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now

-- Science Denial, Incompetent and Disastrous Pandemic Response Tops Issues of Concern --

Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly.

The evidence and the science show that Donald Trump has badly damaged the U.S. and its people—because he rejects evidence and science. The most devastating example is his dishonest and inept response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which cost more than 190,000 Americans their lives by the middle of September. He has also attacked environmental protections, medical care, and the researchers and public science agencies that help this country prepare for its greatest challenges. That is why we urge you to vote for Joe Biden, who is offering fact-based plans to protect our health, our economy and the environment. These and other proposals he has put forth can set the country back on course for a safer, more prosperous and more equitable future.

The pandemic would strain any nation and system, but Trump's rejection of evidence and public health measures have been catastrophic in the U.S. He was warned many times in January and February about the onrushing disease, yet he did not develop a national strategy to provide protective equipment, coronavirus testing or clear health guidelines. Testing people for the virus, and tracing those they may have infected, is how countries in Europe and Asia have gained control over their outbreaks, saved lives, and successfully reopened businesses and schools. But in the U.S., Trump claimed, falsely, that “anybody that wants a test can get a test.” That was untrue in March and remained untrue through the summer. Trump opposed $25 billion for increased testing and tracing that was in a pandemic relief bill as late as July. These lapses accelerated the spread of disease through the country—particularly in highly vulnerable communities that include people of color, where deaths climbed disproportionately to those in the rest of the population.

Continued
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ses-joe-biden/

It's good they came clean and showed political bias to the left. They have hence discredited themselves as a solely 'science publication'.

"Overall, we rate Scientific American Pro-Science and Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that favor the left."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/scientific-american/

[TexanManWithPlans]

you are probably a truther too

shit stain

What do you mean by "truther"?

[Matt Dillon]

Liberal-bias universities that hand out degrees and credentials to evolutionists.

True scientists (creationists) get their science degrees from non-accredited religious institutions rather than accredited schools and universities.

Just how useless are liberal-bias universities? Consider the competition: for fifty bucks and an SASE, and you're a Ph.D., ready and qualified to refute evolution! Meanwhile stupid scientists spend far more time and money on a far inferior education!

Let's see your doctoral book, fucktard!
Dude, you're a pro internet shill, I'm an average American, fuck you!