Reply With QuoteYou two must be kissin' cuzins.....or are you even closer?Originally Posted by IBDaMann
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DONALD TRUMP IS AN EVIL FORCE!
ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR AN EVIL FORCE IS JUST AS EVIL!
SO BASICALLY- GO FUCK YOURSELF!
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You two must be kissin' cuzins.....or are you even closer?
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... at least not voluntarily. I get it.
... and forever rules his destiny it does?
It looks like someone views himself as a Jedi knight who is charged with saving the republic. You'll be the first Star Wars character on the Climate Justice League.
Shall I bring your light saber to you in your rubber room?
So how are you planning on celebrating Trump's reelection in November?
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No, the Party of the Jackass is the Party of Satan. Satan's attributes run rampant throughout the Party of the Jackass.
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That's quite surprising. Not just because they did mention the Alt-Right by name, but because self-proclaimed Alt-Right figures were there. Did you follow this on Fox? They might have ignored the Alt-Right and just called everyone there a "Socialist" or something.
You could make the argument that it was xenophobic, not racist, if the Squad actually were all immigrants. However, three of them were born and raised in America. The reason Trump said this is because it's a common trope said by people who don't want non-white people in America. Neo-Nazis and Klansmen have always said Blacks should "go back" to Africa, even though most American Blacks have never even been to Africa.That's countryist. Learn what "racist" means.
It would be like if he insulted four Irish politicians by saying they're a bunch of alcoholic criminals who fight all day. Even without him specifically using the word "Irish," we'd all understand the trope he's using and why he's using it.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-deletes-tweet-jeb-bushs-wife/story?id=32256986"]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-deletes-tweet-jeb-bushs-wife/story?id=32256986"]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-deletes-tweet-jeb-bushs-wife/story?id=32256986This is multilayered dishonesty.
Did Trump write that or did someone else? Why are you including that in this list? Just because you allow yourself to be totally tooled by the media doesn't mean I do.
His wife is from Mexico. The reason I included it is because Trump implied that all Mexicans are illegal by saying he has to like "Mexican Illegals" due to his Mexican wife.By the way, is Jeb Bush's wife an immigrant from another country? Yes or no? Might that influence Jeb Bush's view on immigration? Yes or no? Why did you include this item in your list?
I do agree that her being an immigrant could influence Jeb Bush in that he might be more open to accepting immigration, even specifically immigrants from Mexico. But why bring up illegals? This was a clear attempt at painting all Mexicans as illegal.
Oh, I 100% agree. Trump is not a racist. He simply uses racism when it benefits him.This has been hashed and rehashed. It was a court case. Trump employed the optimal strategy. He One is not a racist for employing a strategy in court.
No, because that wasn't my point. My point is that Trump acts racist when he thinks it will benefit him, such as sucking up to the Alt-Right.Do you have anything that is actually evidence of racism, i.e. action that negatively impacted a race?
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Sure, I'm not saying that the term "Alt-Right" was never mentioned. I am saying that I don't recall it. I believe that a term like that would stand out and that I would remember it ... but I don't recall it.
I followed the event on no-name news articles (i.e. I don't remember the sources) and from listening to YouTube commentary (i.e. do a search on the event and listen to the first four videos). What I found amazing is the vast numbers of people who are apparently omnisicent and assert with absolute certainty "details" that I could not verify no matter how much research I performed, i.e. everybody seems to be bullshitting about that event. What I saw in the videos was a vast crowd of BLM initiating violence on the small group of KKK as they marched to where they were going to demonstrate. I can't find a single leftist that will acknowledge this.
If that were the case then yes, xenophobia would apply to those of different countries. However, Trump was making the standard comment that I and others make to people who live in the US but bash on the US, i.e. "If you don't like it here, fuck'n leave, dumbass ... you won't be missed." Do you imagine that I wouldn't say that to Rep Omar? I'll tell her that she can sit on this and spin around. And no, I do not "fear" her or have any sort of phobia. I have a profound lack of respect.
I love "Drunk Irishman" jokes.
As Trump is about to call Ukraine President Zalenskyy, he notices that one of the guys who will be taking notes for the transcript is a drunk Irishman. Trump asks him "Hey, are you OK to do this? Can you even see straight?" The Irishman, stumbling a bit says "Of course I can! We ALL can. I'm a lightbulb!" Trump says to him "Well stop being a lightbulb and get ready to take notes for my call." The Irishman looks a bit confused, shrugs his shoulders and heads for the door. Trump asks "Wait, where do you think you're going?" The Irishman answers "I guess I'm going to have to work from home today. You don't expect me to work in the dark, do you?"
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Kylie Finnigan moves to a new town and quickly finds a quality pub. The bartender asks him what he's having and Finnigan responds "One shot of Jameson for me and one more for my brother Patrick." The bartender asks Kylie if Patrick will be joining him. "No," replies Kylie, "my brother is not able to be with me. He had to remain behind to care for our mother ... but as long as he is alive, I'm going to drink one in his honor every day ... my brother Patrick!" So the bartender sets up the two shots and Kylie slams one and then the other.
The next day at the same time, Kylie returns to the pub and tells the bartender "Same thing ... one for me and one for my brother." The following day, the exact same thing. And then again, and again. For four months this continues until finally one day Kylie enters the bar with a cold look on his face, he trudges up to the bar and tells the bartender "There's been a bit of a change. Just pour me one from now on." The bartender asks "I don't mean to pry but did something happen to your brother Patrick?" Kylie answers "To patrick? Oh, no ... today I quit drinking."
Nope. Trump made the bogus claim that Jeb Bush would be in favor of illegal immigration. It's not racist; it's illogical.
If it weren't a court case then it would be bigotry, not racism. However, it was a court strategy to get the judge removed. All's fair. All strategies that are permitted are permitted.
I claim that Trump isn't going to suck up to a group of only twenty-thirty people.
Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.
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Well I acknowledge that BLM and Antifa attacked the Alt-Right. But it's beside the point. The point is the Alt-Right is an influential movement that the media has tried to ignore, until they did something so big, that ignoring them was impossible.
Again, he told non-white people who were born and raised in America to "go back" to their countries when this is their country. It's not that he used "love it or leave it" as an attack. It's that he used a common racist trope against them.If that were the case then yes, xenophobia would apply to those of different countries. However, Trump was making the standard comment that I and others make to people who live in the US but bash on the US, i.e. "If you don't like it here, fuck'n leave, dumbass ... you won't be missed." Do you imagine that I wouldn't say that to Rep Omar? I'll tell her that she can sit on this and spin around. And no, I do not "fear" her or have any sort of phobia. I have a profound lack of respect.
If it's just a joke, it's fine. But imagine if someone seriously made the argument that someone is unfit to be president because they're Irish and all the Irish do is drink and fight. You'd agree that would be racist, right?I love "Drunk Irishman" jokes.
Alright, that one was kinda funny.Kylie Finnigan moves to a new town and quickly finds a quality pub. The bartender asks him what he's having and Finnigan responds "One shot of Jameson for me and one more for my brother Patrick." The bartender asks Kylie if Patrick will be joining him. "No," replies Kylie, "my brother is not able to be with me. He had to remain behind to care for our mother ... but as long as he is alive, I'm going to drink one in his honor every day ... my brother Patrick!" So the bartender sets up the two shots and Kylie slams one and then the other.
The next day at the same time, Kylie returns to the pub and tells the bartender "Same thing ... one for me and one for my brother." The following day, the exact same thing. And then again, and again. For four months this continues until finally one day Kylie enters the bar with a cold look on his face, he trudges up to the bar and tells the bartender "There's been a bit of a change. Just pour me one from now on." The bartender asks "I don't mean to pry but did something happen to your brother Patrick?" Kylie answers "To patrick? Oh, no ... today I quit drinking."
If Trump said "Jeb would be in favor of illegal immigration because he's left-handed" or something like that, I'd agree. But his argument was that Jeb loves illegals because his wife is Mexican.Nope. Trump made the bogus claim that Jeb Bush would be in favor of illegal immigration. It's not racist; it's illogical.
It's funny, Conservatives usually accuse Liberals of using "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant" interchangeably. And I agree, that's really stupid. But if Trump uses "Mexican" and "illegal Mexican" interchangeably, is that not kinda racist?
I'm not arguing that it's not permitted. I'm arguing that Trump used racism in order to discredit the judge. Whether all's fair in court is a different issue. My only argument is that this was yet another case of Trump using racism for his own benefit.If it weren't a court case then it would be bigotry, not racism. However, it was a court strategy to get the judge removed. All's fair. All strategies that are permitted are permitted.
Why not? Has he not proven he'll suck up to anyone if it will benefit him? And considering how his base responds to these racist tropes, it's obviously a lot more than thirty people.I claim that Trump isn't going to suck up to a group of only twenty-thirty people.
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No. "Racist" is the wrong word. You are describing prejudice and bigotry.
"Racism" becomes the right word when said Irishman is otherwise prevented (i.e. tangible action, tangible result) from becoming President because of being Irish.
... but yes, the scenario you describe above is definitely bigotry.
In this case you are the one making the error. Your argument only makes sense if you consider "Mexican" to be a slur as opposed to meaning "from a bordering country." Suppose Jeb Bush had been married to a Canadian. Trump's argument sounds moderately plausible ... it just doesn't hold up to logical scrutiny.
Nope. You are using the wrong words.
Trump accused the Judge of racism in a play to get the judge removed. Trump's motivation and argument is the unfair treatment Trump has received from that judge up to that point. Excellent strategy. There is nothing racist about it on Trump's part. Judges recuse themselves all the time and court cases get transferred to other judges all the time. There is nothing to see here. Everything is standard courtroom strategy to gain an advantage. Remember, Trump's opponent in the case was not the judge. The judge was the judge. Trump wanted a different judge, a fair judge, and that judge would not recuse himself voluntarily.
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Trump got elected. He did so by building a broad fan base, which he accomplished by making it clear that he wasn't going to pander to anyone, i.e. he wasn't going to pander to illegal immigrants by promising open borders, he wasn't going to pander to millenials and generational welfare addicts by promising free everything, he wasn't going to pander to LGBTQIATIOAPP by promising to allow men in women's public bathrooms and by screwing with military effectiveness, he wasn't going to pander to Islamic extremists by pretending that terrorism is somehow OK and that dressing as an Arab automatically makes one immune to scrutiny, etc. He was the exact opposite of the Democrat Party. That was his platform and it resonated. You did catch that he got elected, right?
So no, he doesn't pander. He does what's right. He does what's best for the United States of America. It's why he will be reelected with more than 300 electoral votes, presuming the DNC is not permitted to commit their planned massive voter fraud.
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Global Warming violates the 1st LoT by claiming a magical creation of thermal energy out of nothing, in the form of a temperature increase, which is somehow caused by a magical substance.
Greenhouse Effect violates Stefan-Boltzmann and black body science by claiming that an increase in earth's temperature is somehow caused by a decrease in earth's radiance.
Greenhouse Effect violates the 2nd LoT by claiming that the cooler atmosphere somehow heats the warmer earth's surface.
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Jews? Who gives a flippin flying fuck! There are around 319 million people in the U.S. Only around 5 million of which are jews. The number of jews that we should have in the U.S. is ZERO!
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#semantics
In everyday speech, we would say that verbally attacking someone over their heritage is racist. But sure, if we want to use the word "bigotry," we can say that Trump uses bigotry when it benefits him.
The reason it was racist isn't because he said the word "Mexican." It's because he equated being Mexican with being an illegal immigrant.In this case you are the one making the error. Your argument only makes sense if you consider "Mexican" to be a slur as opposed to meaning "from a bordering country." Suppose Jeb Bush had been married to a Canadian. Trump's argument sounds moderately plausible ... it just doesn't hold up to logical scrutiny.
If Jeb was married to a Canadian, and Trump said something like "Jeb has to support illegal immigration from Canada because his wife is Canadian," I'd consider that racist too. Again, the implication is that everyone from this group is a criminal who came here illegally.
But Trump's entire argument was that the judge should be removed because this judge, who was born and raised in America, is a Mexican. You can say it's an excellent strategy, a terrible strategy, whatever. The point is that Trump is saying this guy can't do his job because of his racial ancestry.Trump accused the Judge of racism in a play to get the judge removed. Trump's motivation and argument is the unfair treatment Trump has received from that judge up to that point. Excellent strategy. There is nothing racist about it on Trump's part. Judges recuse themselves all the time and court cases get transferred to other judges all the time. There is nothing to see here. Everything is standard courtroom strategy to gain an advantage. Remember, Trump's opponent in the case was not the judge. The judge was the judge. Trump wanted a different judge, a fair judge, and that judge would not recuse himself voluntarily.
You said he accused the judge of racism, so what is the implication there? He's racist because his ancestors were Mexican?
That's just not true. He pandered to the Alt-Right and other racists with similar ideas. And he didn't build a broad fan base, rather he alienated lots of people, such as Hispanics, Muslims, and so on.I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Trump got elected. He did so by building a broad fan base, which he accomplished by making it clear that he wasn't going to pander to anyone
And getting elected wasn't much of an accomplishment considering he needed the electoral college. He was running against the most hated Democrat in America and he STILL failed to get more votes.
He actually said Cait Jenner could use whatever bathroom she wanted at Trump Tower. He did a fair amount of sucking up to the LGBT crowd when running, which I'm sure pissed off his base, but the racism made up for it. Then when he became president, he decided to double down on the Fascism thing by trying to ban trans people from the military.he wasn't going to pander to LGBTQIATIOAPP by promising to allow men in women's public bathrooms
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Is there's so few, why do they bother you so much? What did you post before you altered it? Did you off a "final solution" for the "Jewish Problem" then post your name and address?
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