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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Yup. I think the thing about boxing is general hunger and desperation: make for very good fights.
    Hunger for what? It takes a lot to be a boxer and not everyone can make the grade. Do you feel the same about kickboxing? Martial art competitions? American football? Soccer? Rugby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Hunger for what? It takes a lot to be a boxer and not everyone can make the grade. Do you feel the same about kickboxing? Martial art competitions? American football? Soccer? Rugby?
    Food. All the other stuff is for Mother's Boys, like the bang-bangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post

    Ali vs Joe Lewis. Ali meets his match. A fighter his equal in ring skill but a harder and more precise puncher. Joe Louis by TKO in the 14th rd.
    NEVER. Not even if they fought 50 times would it happen.

    Jack Johnson vs. Tyson or Forman would be something to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Food. All the other stuff is for Mother's Boys, like the bang-bangs.
    You really should visit America, maybe even live here for awhile. It's not like the Spaghetti Westerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You really should visit America, maybe even live here for awhile. It's not like the Spaghetti Westerns.
    It's not regarded as healthy at the moment, I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It's not regarded as healthy at the moment, I'm afraid.
    Whut? Afraid of a strong dose of Trump virus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Not sure if you are just joking here...although with Golota on your list, my guess would be that you are. You shoulda put Wepner in there instead of Golota.

    Klitschko was good, but Ali woulda murdered him. So would Forman

    And Marciano??? You gotta be kidding. I'm of Italian heritage...and the temptation to over rate him is great, but he does not belong on that list at all in my opinion.

    Ali should be number one in the heavyweight class...with Forman, Holmes, and even Joe Frazier up there. Sonny Liston was one hell of a fighter also...just with bad shit happening all the time.

    I honestly thought Forman would last for 40 years. Of all things, he got out-thought by Ali.

    In any case, the Marciano choice was you big mistake.
    I'm going to disagree on Marciano & Golota.

    Look at Marciano's knock out ratio.

    Look at how Golota gave Riddick Bowe brain damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    You saw Marciano fight??!!

    When I said “seen” I meant live. Like a live telecast, ppv or in person.

    Now if you’re not old enough to have seen Ali then I can understand Klitchco as he was the best heavyweight of his era.

    But not in Ali’s league. Now an interesting fantasy fight,assuming both fighter are in their Prime would be Forman vs. Klitschko. I’d take Foreman to knockout Klitschko in the 6th rd. The knock on Klitschko was he was never an undisputed champ though he was a unified Champ. Foreman was an undisputed champ. So was Ali. Ali had ten successful undisputed championship defenses. Klitschko had none. Ali had 14 successful defenses as unified champ. Klitschko had 17 which places him second all time to Joe Lewis who was the best heavyweight all time (but I never saw him fight live).

    I place Klitschko in a four way tie for fourth with Frazier, Tyson and Liston but Klitschko beat Ali in his prime? That’s funny.
    Klitschko had a higher knock out ratio, and held the title longer than Muhammad Ali.

    Klitschko is also much bigger than Muhammad Ali.

    Klitschko also had a higher IQ, a PhD degree, and was very well trained.

    I have little doubt, that Klitschko would beat Muhammad Ali in the ring.

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