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    Angry One thing I don't get about most pro-lifers

    Why are you for abortion rights in the case of rape? It's still a little baby in there! How does getting raped change that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRaw! View Post
    Why are you for abortion rights in the case of rape? It's still a little baby in there! How does getting raped change that?!
    That actually sounds like a valid question....

    Death penalty....war....abortion....all mean killing for some reason or another...

    Death penalty...as a deterrent to crime? as punishment? revenge?
    Throughout history the death penalty has been used in almost every culture at one time of another....valid reasons????

    War....we must defend our property and possessions, our friends, our familys, and our own very lives....even if it means that some innocent die....
    valid reasons....

    Abortion.... because I'm not ready for a baby? I have a headache?
    I don't want to get fat? Just ..because? I was raped? I was drunk? I was pissed off at; whoever....valid reasons???

    Just what are valid reasons for taking anothers life...???? Thats the debate....

    To deny we are taking a life is just the cowards way out of a social dilemma ..


    I don't like taking any life, human or animal, but I have my own views when the action becomes valid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRaw! View Post
    Why are you for abortion rights in the case of rape? It's still a little baby in there! How does getting raped change that?!
    What is that a picture of, your avatar, anyway?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What is that a picture of, your avatar, anyway?
    Looks like an abortion maybe...

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    as you know, i am pro-choice because there are two lives at stake - why should one be more important than the other

    if you were female (i assume that you are male) would you want to carry with you every day for 9 months the reminder that you were the victim of a senseless and brutal attack, relive the utter feeling of helplessness - my daughter was raped and she told just how she felt about it - the man who did it is dead now
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    as you know, i am pro-choice because there are two lives at stake - why should one be more important than the other

    if you were female (i assume that you are male) would you want to carry with you every day for 9 months the reminder that you were the victim of a senseless and brutal attack, relive the utter feeling of helplessness - my daughter was raped and she told just how she felt about it - the man who did it is dead now
    So you remove it with the intent to bring it to term outside the uterus. Thus doing two things. Removing the need to intent to kill in a doctor, and the reality of enforced incubation for a woman.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    That actually sounds like a valid question....

    Death penalty....war....abortion....all mean killing for some reason or another...

    Death penalty...as a deterrent to crime? as punishment? revenge?
    Throughout history the death penalty has been used in almost every culture at one time of another....valid reasons????

    War....we must defend our property and possessions, our friends, our familys, and our own very lives....even if it means that some innocent die....
    valid reasons....

    Abortion.... because I'm not ready for a baby? I have a headache?
    I don't want to get fat? Just ..because? I was raped? I was drunk? I was pissed off at; whoever....valid reasons???

    Just what are valid reasons for taking anothers life...???? Thats the debate....

    To deny we are taking a life is just the cowards way out of a social dilemma ..


    I don't like taking any life, human or animal, but I have my own views when the action becomes valid...
    I was out scouting today and planning where I will kill some deer in a little over a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    So you remove it with the intent to bring it to term outside the uterus. Thus doing two things. Removing the need to intent to kill in a doctor, and the reality of enforced incubation for a woman.
    perhaps, but if there is anything to passing on certain traits i think ending it would be best

    oth, if it could be done and someone wanted it and was willing to pay for the procedure, it would still be up to the woman, but she might be more likely to pass it on to a childless couple

    an another tentacle, there are over 6.5 billion of us and resources are running out
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    But don that is what wars are for. We can't abort em that does not support industry. We must kill off the excess population in a war so profit can be made.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    But don that is what wars are for. We can't abort em that does not support industry. We must kill off the excess population in a war so profit can be made.
    Necessity breeds invention. People tend not to look for solutions until the problem is at hand. I believe that humans will find the solution when it becomes necessary.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitary View Post
    I was out scouting today and planning where I will kill some deer in a little over a month.
    I've got wall space reserved in my classroom for this season's deer pics from my students that will succeed in killing a deer this fall/winter. Got one pic up so far, 6 days into the season.....an 11th grade girl got a six point with her bow.

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    Sometimes waiting until the problem is at hand to find a soloution is too late.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Yeah sol, deermania is beginning here as well.


    I pulled out my orange and red shirts so maybe I don't get shot.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Sometimes waiting until the problem is at hand to find a soloution is too late.
    Too late for some but not for all. That is one of the problems with humans, that some will hurt because we wait until the last moment to fix things. IMO it is because the foresight of people is limited because of short life spans.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    Yeah shortlifes and the promise of an afterlife.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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