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    Werewolf ‘This is no longer a debate’: Fla sheriff bans deputies, visitors from wearing masks

    What kinda crazy shit is going on in Fla??? WTF?? Someone die & appt this asshole mask cop for a day??




    August 12, 2020 at 12:32 a.m. PDT
    On Tuesday, as Florida set a daily record for covid-19 deaths, Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods prohibited his deputies from wearing masks at work. His order, which also applies to visitors to the sheriff’s office, carves out an exception for officers in some locations, including hospitals, and when dealing with people who are high-risk or suspected of having the novel coronavirus.

    In an email to the sheriff’s department shared with The Washington Post, Woods disputed the idea that masks are a consensus approach to battling the pandemic.

    “We can debate and argue all day of why and why not. The fact is, the amount of professionals that give the reason why we should, I can find the exact same amount of professionals that say why we shouldn’t,” Woods wrote in the email, which was first reported by the Ocala Star-Banner.

    A majority of epidemiologists and other health experts say face masks and social distancing are key to slowing the spread of the novel coronavirus, which has ravaged Florida. The state, which has recorded more than 542,000 cases and more than 8,600 deaths, added 277 more deaths on Tuesday; Marion County also set a record for daily deaths on Tuesday, with 13.

    Police nationwide have faced scrutiny over inconsistent use of masks by officers, even in large cities like New York and Philadelphia where face coverings are mandatory. Many large departments only suggest officers wear masks, ABC News recently found, while those that require them, including the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, make exceptions for incidents where masks might impede officers in the line of duty.

    Woods is among the first law enforcement officials to outright ban masks for his deputies, though.

    He issued the order as Marion County and its largest city, Ocala, are mired in a politically charged debate over a mandatory mask rule. The Ocala City Council passed an emergency mask order last week, but Mayor Kent Guinn (R) vetoed it, citing in part a refusal by Ocala Police Chief Greg Graham to enforce the rule.

    “My chief and I have talked about it. We will never write a fine. We’re just not going to do it,” Guinn told the Sky 97.3 FM on Monday.

    The city council plans to meet Wednesday to consider overriding the veto, the Star-Banner reported.

    Woods, meanwhile, told his deputies on Tuesday to stop wearing masks in most cases. While officers can still mask up in areas including the courthouse and county jail, they must immediately take off the face coverings afterward. Deputies working special events are also forbidden from wearing masks, Woods said.

    All visitors to sheriff’s department buildings will be asked to take off their masks in the lobby, Woods said, linking that rule to the ongoing protests against police brutality.

    “In light of the current events when it comes to the sentiment and/or hatred toward law enforcement in our country today, this is being done to ensure there is clear communication and for identification purposes of any individual walking into a lobby,” he wrote.

    The sheriff argued working mask-free hasn’t led to a spike of infections in his 900-person department. “Since the beginning of this pandemic the operation of this office has not changed and no wearing of masks has been put in place,” he said.

    But as the Star-Banner reported, the local jail has seen a serious spike, with at least 200 inmates testing positive, along with 36 jail employees, including officers. A nurse at the jail has also died of covid-19.

    Should anyone challenge a deputy about wearing a mask, Woods wrote, “politely and professionally tell them I am not required to wear a mask nor will I, per the Order of the Sheriff.”

    Woods, who participated in a phone conference with President Trump and other sheriffs on Tuesday, ended his missive by making it clear that he would brook no dissent.

    “This is no longer a debate nor is it up for discussion,” he wrote. “Please keep in mind this entire pandemic is fluid and constantly changing the way things are done. However, my orders will be followed or my actions will be swift to address.”

    Correction: This story originally misstated the number of covid-19 deaths reported in Florida on Tuesday, when 277 new deaths were recorded.
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    TrumpCo. said, suggested, or implied to these Deplorables that wearing masks was for wimps and constituted an existential threat to our precious freedoms.

    That is why this country lags behind most of the developed world in addressing the pandemic: 35 percent of our population believe everything Trumpf says, and we have tens of millions of overweight and unmasked Deplorables exhaling their disgusting oral fluids on the rest of us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What kinda crazy shit is going on in Fla??? WTF?? Someone die & appt this asshole mask cop for a day??




    August 12, 2020 at 12:32 a.m. PDT
    On Tuesday, as Florida set a daily record for covid-19 deaths, Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods prohibited his deputies from wearing masks at work. His order, which also applies to visitors to the sheriff’s office, carves out an exception for officers in some locations, including hospitals, and when dealing with people who are high-risk or suspected of having the novel coronavirus.

    In an email to the sheriff’s department shared with The Washington Post, Woods disputed the idea that masks are a consensus approach to battling the pandemic.

    “We can debate and argue all day of why and why not. The fact is, the amount of professionals that give the reason why we should, I can find the exact same amount of professionals that say why we shouldn’t,” Woods wrote in the email, which was first reported by the Ocala Star-Banner.

    A majority of epidemiologists and other health experts say face masks and social distancing are key to slowing the spread of the novel coronavirus, which has ravaged Florida. The state, which has recorded more than 542,000 cases and more than 8,600 deaths, added 277 more deaths on Tuesday; Marion County also set a record for daily deaths on Tuesday, with 13.

    Police nationwide have faced scrutiny over inconsistent use of masks by officers, even in large cities like New York and Philadelphia where face coverings are mandatory. Many large departments only suggest officers wear masks, ABC News recently found, while those that require them, including the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, make exceptions for incidents where masks might impede officers in the line of duty.

    Woods is among the first law enforcement officials to outright ban masks for his deputies, though.

    He issued the order as Marion County and its largest city, Ocala, are mired in a politically charged debate over a mandatory mask rule. The Ocala City Council passed an emergency mask order last week, but Mayor Kent Guinn (R) vetoed it, citing in part a refusal by Ocala Police Chief Greg Graham to enforce the rule.

    “My chief and I have talked about it. We will never write a fine. We’re just not going to do it,” Guinn told the Sky 97.3 FM on Monday.

    The city council plans to meet Wednesday to consider overriding the veto, the Star-Banner reported.

    Woods, meanwhile, told his deputies on Tuesday to stop wearing masks in most cases. While officers can still mask up in areas including the courthouse and county jail, they must immediately take off the face coverings afterward. Deputies working special events are also forbidden from wearing masks, Woods said.

    All visitors to sheriff’s department buildings will be asked to take off their masks in the lobby, Woods said, linking that rule to the ongoing protests against police brutality.

    “In light of the current events when it comes to the sentiment and/or hatred toward law enforcement in our country today, this is being done to ensure there is clear communication and for identification purposes of any individual walking into a lobby,” he wrote.

    The sheriff argued working mask-free hasn’t led to a spike of infections in his 900-person department. “Since the beginning of this pandemic the operation of this office has not changed and no wearing of masks has been put in place,” he said.

    But as the Star-Banner reported, the local jail has seen a serious spike, with at least 200 inmates testing positive, along with 36 jail employees, including officers. A nurse at the jail has also died of covid-19.

    Should anyone challenge a deputy about wearing a mask, Woods wrote, “politely and professionally tell them I am not required to wear a mask nor will I, per the Order of the Sheriff.”

    Woods, who participated in a phone conference with President Trump and other sheriffs on Tuesday, ended his missive by making it clear that he would brook no dissent.

    “This is no longer a debate nor is it up for discussion,” he wrote. “Please keep in mind this entire pandemic is fluid and constantly changing the way things are done. However, my orders will be followed or my actions will be swift to address.”

    Correction: This story originally misstated the number of covid-19 deaths reported in Florida on Tuesday, when 277 new deaths were recorded.
    Masks do not stop a virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    TrumpCo. said, suggested, or implied to these Deplorables that wearing masks was for wimps and constituted an existential threat to our precious freedoms.

    That is why this country lags behind most of the developed world in addressing the pandemic: 35 percent of our population believe everything Trumpf says, and we have tens of millions of overweight and unmasked Deplorables exhaling their disgusting oral fluids on the rest of us
    Masks do not stop a virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    They’ve been told they work though lol.
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    History is going to look back on us so unkindly.

    We're really dopey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    not wearing a mask doesn't either.........

    Wearing a mask reduces my chances you will infect me..... Not that you care about anyone else but yourself..

    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What kinda crazy shit is going on in Fla??? WTF?? Someone die & appt this asshole mask cop for a day??
    I knew we had crazy cops. I didn't know we had crazy chiefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What kinda crazy shit is going on in Fla??? WTF?? Someone die & appt this asshole mask cop for a day??




    August 12, 2020 at 12:32 a.m. PDT
    On Tuesday, as Florida set a daily record for covid-19 deaths, Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods prohibited his deputies from wearing masks at work. His order, which also applies to visitors to the sheriff’s office, carves out an exception for officers in some locations, including hospitals, and when dealing with people who are high-risk or suspected of having the novel coronavirus.

    In an email to the sheriff’s department shared with The Washington Post, Woods disputed the idea that masks are a consensus approach to battling the pandemic.

    “We can debate and argue all day of why and why not. The fact is, the amount of professionals that give the reason why we should, I can find the exact same amount of professionals that say why we shouldn’t,” Woods wrote in the email, which was first reported by the Ocala Star-Banner.

    A majority of epidemiologists and other health experts say face masks and social distancing are key to slowing the spread of the novel coronavirus, which has ravaged Florida. The state, which has recorded more than 542,000 cases and more than 8,600 deaths, added 277 more deaths on Tuesday; Marion County also set a record for daily deaths on Tuesday, with 13.

    Police nationwide have faced scrutiny over inconsistent use of masks by officers, even in large cities like New York and Philadelphia where face coverings are mandatory. Many large departments only suggest officers wear masks, ABC News recently found, while those that require them, including the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, make exceptions for incidents where masks might impede officers in the line of duty.

    Woods is among the first law enforcement officials to outright ban masks for his deputies, though.

    He issued the order as Marion County and its largest city, Ocala, are mired in a politically charged debate over a mandatory mask rule. The Ocala City Council passed an emergency mask order last week, but Mayor Kent Guinn (R) vetoed it, citing in part a refusal by Ocala Police Chief Greg Graham to enforce the rule.

    “My chief and I have talked about it. We will never write a fine. We’re just not going to do it,” Guinn told the Sky 97.3 FM on Monday.

    The city council plans to meet Wednesday to consider overriding the veto, the Star-Banner reported.

    Woods, meanwhile, told his deputies on Tuesday to stop wearing masks in most cases. While officers can still mask up in areas including the courthouse and county jail, they must immediately take off the face coverings afterward. Deputies working special events are also forbidden from wearing masks, Woods said.

    All visitors to sheriff’s department buildings will be asked to take off their masks in the lobby, Woods said, linking that rule to the ongoing protests against police brutality.

    “In light of the current events when it comes to the sentiment and/or hatred toward law enforcement in our country today, this is being done to ensure there is clear communication and for identification purposes of any individual walking into a lobby,” he wrote.

    The sheriff argued working mask-free hasn’t led to a spike of infections in his 900-person department. “Since the beginning of this pandemic the operation of this office has not changed and no wearing of masks has been put in place,” he said.

    But as the Star-Banner reported, the local jail has seen a serious spike, with at least 200 inmates testing positive, along with 36 jail employees, including officers. A nurse at the jail has also died of covid-19.

    Should anyone challenge a deputy about wearing a mask, Woods wrote, “politely and professionally tell them I am not required to wear a mask nor will I, per the Order of the Sheriff.”

    Woods, who participated in a phone conference with President Trump and other sheriffs on Tuesday, ended his missive by making it clear that he would brook no dissent.

    “This is no longer a debate nor is it up for discussion,” he wrote. “Please keep in mind this entire pandemic is fluid and constantly changing the way things are done. However, my orders will be followed or my actions will be swift to address.”

    Correction: This story originally misstated the number of covid-19 deaths reported in Florida on Tuesday, when 277 new deaths were recorded.
    stop your nwo bullshit.

    masks are extremely gay.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    stop your nwo bullshit.

    masks are extremely gay.
    So are you, but we still love your crazy ass.............
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So are you, but we still love your crazy ass.............
    I feel pretty.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Masks work. https://abc7chicago.com/fresno-state...virus/6293217/ That right wing cop is risking other cops lives due to his right wing beliefs. It is shameful and wrong. I hope he gets his ass sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Masks work. https://abc7chicago.com/fresno-state...virus/6293217/ That right wing cop is risking other cops lives due to his right wing beliefs. It is shameful and wrong. I hope he gets his ass sued.
    masks work for the ugly, but beautiful people have no need for them.

    only ugly people get covid.
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    Yes they do. An intelligent use of face covering over the mouth and nose with enough fabric limits viral load. Limiting viral load is the key, especially in closed spaces.
    That you do not grasp physics is your stupidity. You did at least state that stupidity twice, so you are at least consistent.

    (So let's talk physics) See this is how limiting viral load works with a mask,
    imagine a forest in which you have a team of archers firing into the forest. If one stands far enough back in the forest there is a very clear chance that a majority of those arrows will hit the trees and not you, that is a mask. The goal is to not eliminate every arrow but limit the amounts of arrows stabbing you to death. That is the point of limiting viral load.
    That is the point of a mask both if you are infected and if another is infected. If both dumb asses wear a mask, it limits the shots of (virus) arrows into the system giving a fighting chance for the body to survive and or not infect others and finally allowing our economy to actually work. Why do you hate capitalism?

    Of course none of that you get or care about because you are fixated on getting the 'other' for stupid reasons that have nothing to do with intelligence, capitalism or realty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Masks work. https://abc7chicago.com/fresno-state...virus/6293217/ That right wing cop is risking other cops lives due to his right wing beliefs. It is shameful and wrong. I hope he gets his ass sued.
    I would imagine the local attorneys where salivating when he came down w/ this bright idea.......

    He will retire w/ full bennies & the county will have to pick up the tab.........

    Keeping him on the payroll makes them complicit........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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