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Thread: Senator Harris - her religious faith traditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    "It doesn't take any "understanding of Hindi" to work realpolitik"

    I subscribe to the 2,400 year old wisdom from Sun Tzu's Art of War: Know your enemy/rival/competitor
    sure you need to understand the country and the geopolitical relationships
    Which Trump has demonstrated w/ PM Modi

    But you really dont need to understand the internals much more then the basics
    as long as you understand the external dynamic relationships

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    easy there snowflake.

    I said you probably knew virtually nothing about Immanuel Kant two nanoseconds before you read my post about him.

    It is amazing actually that you would cling to a grudge about that. By the standards of jpp dot com, that is about the mildest and most innocuous form of insult, aka retort you are likely to experiece here.

    I am not a snowflake. Getting tired of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Yes

    One does not have to even be religious to recognize that a depth of knowedge and experience with world religious and philosiphical traditions is fundamental to bring an informed world citizen.

    The fact that I know something about Hinduism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Jainism, Eastern Orthodoxy, enhances my understanding of South Asia, East Asia, Russia, et al
    Absolutely, religions are a part of most countries, religions influence culture and governments. I find them fascinating, I just chose not to partake, but I respect other’s choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Absolutely, religions are a part of most countries, religions influence culture and governments. I find them fascinating, I just chose not to partake, but I respect others choices.
    Great minds think alike .

    Respect leads to wisdom and knowledge

    I have no desire to be Hindu or Buddhist. But studying those faith traditions gave me insights about South Asia I never would have if I chose to remain as willfully ignorant of world culture as Donald Trumpf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    I am not a snowflake. Getting tired of you.
    White liberals think they need to save you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    White liberals think they need to save you
    Christians. I was raised Christian. Never liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Christians. I was raised Christian. Never liked it.
    I'm with you. I gave up religion at 12 years of age. I find all religion to be a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Her personal religious experience includes Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism


    (RNS) — Few, if any, vice presidential candidates have had as much exposure to the world’s religions as Kamala Harris, the 55-year-old senator from California who Joseph Biden just picked as his running mate.

    Harris’ ethnic, racial and cultural biography represents a slice of the U.S. population that is becoming ascendant but that has never been represented in the nation’s second-highest office.

    She was raised on Hinduism and Christianity.
    Her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, was from Chennai, India; her father, Donald Harris, from Jamaica. The two met as graduate students at the University of California, Berkeley.

    Her name, Kamala, means “lotus” in Sanskrit, and is another name for the Hindu goddess Lakshmi. She visited India multiple times as a girl and got to know her relatives there.

    But because her parents divorced when she was 7, she also grew up in Oakland and Berkeley attending predominantly Black churches.Her downstairs neighbor, Regina Shelton, often took Kamala and her sister Maya to Oakland's 23rd Avenue Church of God in Oakland. Harris now considers herself a Black Baptist.

    She is married to a Jewish man.
    Harris met her husband, Los Angeles lawyer Douglas Emhoff, on a blind date in San Francisco. They married in 2014. At their wedding, the couple smashed a glass to honor Emhoff’s upbringing (a traditional Jewish wedding custom).

    Continued https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...-kamala-harris
    Obviously she has no religion, other than herself. She just joins whatever is politically expedient at the time...a chameleon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Obviously she has no religion, other than herself. She just joins whatever is politically expedient at the time...a chameleon.
    Politics is indeed a form of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Religion is bullshit. Sorry. Sick of people thinking they are more moral because they tell others they are religious.
    Religion has a place. It has often inspired men to great deeds and charity. It has done much to benefit men. It has also been used to justify imprisonment or murder, clearly not benefits.

    Religion isn't good or bad. It just is. To lump all religions as 'bad' is simply bigotry.

    All religions are based on some initial circular argument, with arguments extending from it. That in and of itself is not fallacy. The other name for the circular argument is 'faith'.

    Religious wars are the most destructive kind of war there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A person cannot understand world history, world culture, or western civilization without knowlege and experiences with the world's great faith traditions.
    Here I agree with you, for once.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I believe these experiences speak well of Senator Harris, and make her a better, more informed citizen of the world
    Harris does not understand any religion. She changes religion about as quickly as she changes her fingernail polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Religion has a place. It has often inspired men to great deeds and charity. It has done much to benefit men. It has also been used to justify imprisonment or murder, clearly not benefits.

    Religion isn't good or bad. It just is. To lump all religions as 'bad' is simply bigotry.

    All religions are based on some initial circular argument, with arguments extending from it. That in and of itself is not fallacy. The other name for the circular argument is 'faith'.

    Religious wars are the most destructive kind of war there is.
    I am not a bigot. Religion belongs at home and in church. American needs an Enlightenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Here I agree with you, for once.

    Harris does not understand any religion. She changes religion about as quickly as she changes her fingernail polish.
    Spoken like a fundamentalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Relentless hostility is a better term.
    Being hostile for the sake of being hostile is just hatred.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    My life has been enriched by having personal and direct exposure to Jewish, Protestant, Sikh, Catholic, Quaker religious traditions and services. I believe I am a more informed person for reading and learning the views of religious, agnostic, and atheist philosophers. It is as much worth leaning about Christian philosopher Soren Kierkegaard as it is to learn about athesist philosopher Frederich Nietsche.
    Here I again agree with you, oddly enough. Religions are an important part of sociology. To ignore religion is to ignore those factors shaping a society.
    Even the days of the week we use here in the United States is religiously based.
    Sunday - the day of the Sun.
    Monday - the day of the Moon.
    Tuesday - also known as "Tyre's" day, a Norse god of war.
    Wednesday - Woton's Day. A Norse god of the air and sky.
    Thursday - Thor's Day. A Norse god of storms.
    Friday - Freia's Day. A Norse goddess of Earth and Fruit.
    Saturday - Saturn's day. A Roman god of bounty.

    Some of our months have religious meaning. Most are named for a Roman emperor or are just numbered (using the now obsolete Roman reckoning of the New Year, which began in March).
    it is difficult to understand the Hopi dances and even the way their villages are constructed without understand the religious symbols behind them.
    Similarly, it is difficult to understand a lot about Japan, without understanding the purpose of their shrines and temples, or even how pervasive Shinto or Buddhist beliefs color their literature, and even their video games and movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    I am not a bigot.
    Yes you are. You made a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class: the very definition of bigotry. This is a fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Religion belongs at home and in church.
    It belongs everywhere. Why limit it to just your home and a church?
    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    American needs an Enlightenment.
    Define this 'enlightenment' you think America needs. You need to be specific.

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