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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    "the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
    Yes, they didn't feel they could prove a conspiracy. What I said was a FACT, and I just showed you the direct quote in the report. Russia interfered to help Trump. Trump accepted the help. This is a fact. Checkmate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    does she say what trump lied about?

    name one.
    The book focuses mostly on how fucked up her family is. Her father, Freddy Jr., was probably the most independent of the siblings. He went to college, was a pilot in the National Guard, and became an airline pilot. And what did the family say? Well, his father, Fred Sr., was embarrassed that his eldest son, his heir apparent, had wasted time in the military and had decided to become a "commoner" and a "glorified bus driver in the sky." And when he died at age 42, Donald Trump was so disinterested that he took his wife to the movies. When Fred Jr. lost his career and came back to work for his dad, Fred Sr. promoted the young and inexperienced Donald to "manager" of Trump Management, leaving Fred to be a superintendent of one of his buildings. After Fred's Jr. funeral, his entire line was cut off financially because, according to the family, "you're only worth how much money you have," and since Fred Jr. died with nothing, he was worth nothing and his kids deserved nothing.

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    jeff bezos is an internationalist fascist cia deep state shill; so is gates.

    most billionaires are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    The book focuses mostly on how fucked up her family is. Her father, Freddy Jr., was probably the most independent of the siblings. He went to college, was a pilot in the National Guard, and became an airline pilot. And what did the family say? Well, his father, Fred Sr., was embarrassed that his eldest son, his heir apparent, had wasted time in the military and had decided to become a "commoner" and a "glorified bus driver in the sky." And when he died at age 42, Donald Trump was so disinterested that he took his wife to the movies. When Fred Jr. lost his career and came back to work for his dad, Fred Sr. promoted the young and inexperienced Donald to "manager" of Trump Management, leaving Fred to be a superintendent of one of his buildings. After Fred's Jr. funeral, his entire line was cut off financially because, according to the family, "you're only worth how much money you have," and since Fred Jr. died with nothing, he was worth nothing and his kids deserved nothing.
    so what did trump lie about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    The low IQ individuals who allowed themselves to be manilpulated and tooled are required to believe Trump is "lying" ... without ever having to be told of any particular "lie."

    Trump has told almost 20,000 particular lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    I would ask you to read Mary Trump's book, but you've been told not to. The people who most need to read it won't.
    How about my favorite Trump lie. That he got the troops a ten percent raise, and that it was the first raise they'd had in a decade. Maybe that isn't a lie? LOL.

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    "We passed VA Choice'

    Nope. It was signed into law by Barack Obama.

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    "I was given the Michigan Man of the Year Award"

    Nope. Never happened.

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    “We’re putting in a resolution some time in the next week and a half to two weeks [and] we’re giving a middle-income tax reduction of about 10 percent”

    There was no such resolution and there was no such bill. It was a bald faced lie.

    Should I go on? I can do this all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBDaMann View Post
    I think you mentioned that you were going to list off a few substantive Trump lies involving Trump's official duties (not tweets or tabloid gossip).
    I'm pretty sure I never said that.
    The thing is, I don't really care to point out Trump's many lies to people who slavishly support Trump, because they don't care about truth and will defend Trump using bad faith arguments.

    For example, I could bring up Trump saying that Biden wants to get rid of religion, that he wants to "hurt the Bible, hurt God." We both know that's a lie, Biden doesn't want to eliminate religion. But you could just say that Trump meant Biden was going to implement policies that will unintentionally restrict the practice of religion. You know that's not what Trump meant, but you could always say that I can't PROVE Trump didn't mean that. You could also say Biden secretly does want to eliminate religion and we know this because he's pro-choice. I can't PROVE that this has been Biden's plan all along, so maybe Trump is right.

    There is also the time that Trump said the Democrats have become an "Anti-Jewish party." We both know it's a lie, but you can say that the real reason they don't support Israel as much as they should is because they hate Jews. There's literally no evidence for this, and it's ridiculous considering the Democrats do support Israel, but I can't PROVE that they don't secretly hate Jews.

    This is the logic that Trumpcucks use. I could go on and on listing Trump's literally thousands of lies, but would it matter? At this point, I rather just lean into the lies when talking with Trumpcucks. Trump lied about his father being born in Germany? Well, I want to see Trump's birth certificate! I think he was born in Berlin and is thus ineligible to be president!

    While you're at it, could you give me the same deductive reasoning you used to conclusively show, beyond any doubt, that Trump supporters don't support him for his impressive list of accomplishments despite Congress' relentless efforts to thwart his every move and a press that has been nothing but unfairly lopsided against?
    #strawmanning

    I didn't say I can prove beyond any doubt that Trumpcucks don't support him for this or that. What I said was that some of them know he's lying, but like him anyway. And there are many different reasons for this. Some of his supporters are rich people who just like that he's making them richer. Some are Accelerationists who think Trump is speeding up the downfall of America. Some are Nihilists who just like that Trump pisses people off. Some are White Nationalist who just like that Trump wants to build a wall.
    I'm sure there are some super low IQ people who think Trump doesn't lie constantly, but I think they're less common than those other types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    He's not a "self-made" man. His dad was behind his early successes, and when he did branch out on his own (out of Brooklyn residential real estate via his father's business, Trump Management) and into the world of casinos and hotels, he buried himself in bankruptcy. His father would actually send his driver to Trump's casino to buy millions of dollars in chips just to help his son's business.

    He's not a "success" or "qualified" in any sense.
    Yeah snowflake; a real estate tycoon who has built a massive billion dollar enterprise, created tens of thousands of jobs and wealth, flies around in his own personal Boeing 757, donates his $400K salary every year and who got elected President in the most powerful nation on the planet is a failure.

    You really are too stupid for words. What have you done to create one single job in American you triggered loon?

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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    The book focuses mostly on how fucked up her family is. Her father, Freddy Jr., was probably the most independent of the siblings. He went to college, was a pilot in the National Guard, and became an airline pilot. And what did the family say? Well, his father, Fred Sr., was embarrassed that his eldest son, his heir apparent, had wasted time in the military and had decided to become a "commoner" and a "glorified bus driver in the sky." And when he died at age 42, Donald Trump was so disinterested that he took his wife to the movies. When Fred Jr. lost his career and came back to work for his dad, Fred Sr. promoted the young and inexperienced Donald to "manager" of Trump Management, leaving Fred to be a superintendent of one of his buildings. After Fred's Jr. funeral, his entire line was cut off financially because, according to the family, "you're only worth how much money you have," and since Fred Jr. died with nothing, he was worth nothing and his kids deserved nothing.
    One of the lies detailed by Mary in the book was that Trump told Marla that Mary had a drinking problem, she didn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A better question is why do his detractors make up so many myths about him?
    They see the election slipping away from Dementia Joe so now they lash out. Imagine the looting, violence and rioting in Blue City Urban shit holes when Trump is re-elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Oh, please, tell us a Trump myth! I can’t wait!
    That he colluded with Russia to get elected. That he bribed Ukraine. That he is a criminal. That he committed impeachable crimes. Need more dumbass?

    You really are too fucking stupid for words you dishonest low IQ hack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I'm pretty sure I never said that.
    The thing is, I don't really care to point out Trump's many lies to people who slavishly support Trump, because they don't care about truth and will defend Trump using bad faith arguments.

    For example, I could bring up Trump saying that Biden wants to get rid of religion, that he wants to "hurt the Bible, hurt God." We both know that's a lie, Biden doesn't want to eliminate religion. But you could just say that Trump meant Biden was going to implement policies that will unintentionally restrict the practice of religion. You know that's not what Trump meant, but you could always say that I can't PROVE Trump didn't mean that. You could also say Biden secretly does want to eliminate religion and we know this because he's pro-choice. I can't PROVE that this has been Biden's plan all along, so maybe Trump is right.

    There is also the time that Trump said the Democrats have become an "Anti-Jewish party." We both know it's a lie, but you can say that the real reason they don't support Israel as much as they should is because they hate Jews. There's literally no evidence for this, and it's ridiculous considering the Democrats do support Israel, but I can't PROVE that they don't secretly hate Jews.

    This is the logic that Trumpcucks use. I could go on and on listing Trump's literally thousands of lies, but would it matter? At this point, I rather just lean into the lies when talking with Trumpcucks. Trump lied about his father being born in Germany? Well, I want to see Trump's birth certificate! I think he was born in Berlin and is thus ineligible to be president!



    #strawmanning

    I didn't say I can prove beyond any doubt that Trumpcucks don't support him for this or that. What I said was that some of them know he's lying, but like him anyway. And there are many different reasons for this. Some of his supporters are rich people who just like that he's making them richer. Some are Accelerationists who think Trump is speeding up the downfall of America. Some are Nihilists who just like that Trump pisses people off. Some are White Nationalist who just like that Trump wants to build a wall.
    I'm sure there are some super low IQ people who think Trump doesn't lie constantly, but I think they're less common than those other types.
    name 3 out of "thousands of lies".

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