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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    I WISH Joe Biden was as liberal/progressive/socialist as the Conservatives say he is.
    If he were, I’d be excited about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I have reasons why I do not think it would happen, but I can see some scenarios where its possible.


    What do you think and why, could a radical liberal firebrand ever get elected President of the United States?
    Would enough radical liberals support a firebrand who lied and cheated every inch of the way, just to get some supreme court seats and a bit of legislation passed?

    The difference for me is that many Republicans are money based and more Liberals are ideology based. If you are an idealist you are less likely to tolerate despicable behavior. Liberals supported Clinton, but that was bad behavior unrelated to the structure of the government and unrelated to his job. Trump is different because much of his bad behavior is actively tearing down the structures of government designed to limit the power of a despot.
    What do you think?
    Interesting question, doubtful, the left isn’t as taken by demagoguery, reason there aren’t a lot of successful left leaning media demagogues, I suppose too critical, plus populism occurs, but isn’t as addictive as it is on the right

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Interesting question, doubtful, the left isn’t as taken by demagoguery, reason there aren’t a lot of successful left leaning media demagogues, I suppose too critical, plus populism occurs, but isn’t as addictive as it is on the right
    The left has some demagogs, we just don’t ever elect them to high office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I have reasons why I do not think it would happen, but I can see some scenarios where its possible.


    What do you think and why, could a radical liberal firebrand ever get elected President of the United States?
    Would enough radical liberals support a firebrand who lied and cheated every inch of the way, just to get some supreme court seats and a bit of legislation passed?

    The difference for me is that many Republicans are money based and more Liberals are ideology based. If you are an idealist you are less likely to tolerate despicable behavior. Liberals supported Clinton, but that was bad behavior unrelated to the structure of the government and unrelated to his job. Trump is different because much of his bad behavior is actively tearing down the structures of government designed to limit the power of a despot.
    What do you think?
    I don't think it would happen. The worst of the left is not a large enough segment to carry an election. There is no left wing hate radio that calls conservatives names, or foments hatred. Most of the hatred found on the left is merely in response to the hatred which originates on the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The left has some demagogs, we just don’t ever elect them to high office.
    True, but nothing in comparison to the right, ain't a lot of left leaning radio DJ's who have turned themselves into multi millionaires telling others exactly what they want to hear

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    Liberals value intelligence. Conservatives do not.

    And that's fairly well documented. Conservatives refer to those with intelligence as "intellectuals" and "elites" - because it sounds bad to say you're against intelligence.

    But they're against intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I don't think it would happen. The worst of the left is not a large enough segment to carry an election. There is no left wing hate radio that calls conservatives names, or foments hatred. Most of the hatred found on the left is merely in response to the hatred which originates on the right.
    So what is the fundamental difference, why does the right sustain hate radio while the left does not?
    Why does the Right promote lunatic candidates to high office?
    What is the difference that makes this result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Could a liberal Trump* get elected?

    I have reasons why I do not think it would happen, but I can see some scenarios where its possible.

    What do you think and why, could a radical liberal firebrand ever get elected President of the United States?
    Would enough radical liberals support a firebrand who lied and cheated every inch of the way, just to get some supreme court seats and a bit of legislation passed?

    The difference for me is that many Republicans are money based and more Liberals are ideology based. If you are an idealist you are less likely to tolerate despicable behavior. Liberals supported Clinton, but that was bad behavior unrelated to the structure of the government and unrelated to his job. Trump is different because much of his bad behavior is actively tearing down the structures of government designed to limit the power of a despot.
    What do you think?
    It's already been tried in 2016 and she lost. Oddly, the stupid one won. Maybe Americans aren't as stupid as some like to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiden Biden View Post
    I think you are stupid and your thread is based on a false premise

    It cracks me up that you believe leftists don’t like money and are just in it for “public service”
    Isn't that why these people do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It's already been tried in 2016 and she lost. Oddly, the stupid one won. Maybe Americans aren't as stupid as some like to think.

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    What about Hillary makes you think she is a demigod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
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    What about Hillary makes you think she is a demigod?
    Her fans on this forum still whining about it almost four years later. No one whined for four years about Kerry, Romney or McCain losing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Her fans on this forum still whining about it almost four years later. No one whined for four years about Kerry, Romney or McCain losing.
    So? It was a big deal. A large majority voted for her and Trump is really awful, thats why they are upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So? It was a big deal. A large majority voted for her and Trump is really awful, thats why they are upset.
    That's my point: it's a big deal when it wasn't any of the others. Read the Constitution including how to amend it. Constantly whining and bitching about it becomes tiresome. Yes, Trump is awful. A fucking moron. So why do you think he won the election? Because he was the lesser of two evils?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    That's my point: it's a big deal when it wasn't any of the others. Read the Constitution including how to amend it. Constantly whining and bitching about it becomes tiresome. Yes, Trump is awful. A fucking moron. So why do you think he won the election? Because he was the lesser of two evils?
    I do not agree. More Americans voted for her 3000000, she was the lesser of two evils. She was BAD, he is 10,000x's worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I do not agree. More Americans voted for her 3000000, she was the lesser of two evils. She was BAD, he is 10,000x's worse.
    She's also smart. A lot smarter than Trump. It's easier to catch stupid crooked politicians than smart crooked ones.
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