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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    And Japan was still a threat to the West? Silly?
    You are going to have to do a whole lot better than this...

    Until the two bombs were dropped, yes, Japan was still a threat to the West.

    They were killing Americans throughout the South Pacific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    And Japan was still a threat to the West? Silly?
    No I don't think they were, they'd lost most of their armed forces, had no oil and few resources. I could see the point of the first to stop the Russians and demonstrate the power of nuclear weapons but not the second. The US had a total of nine bombs, an invasion was not even remotely likely.

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    Be quiet, Trumper, don’t embarrass yourself.

    You are still my tutorial...even though you have paid me squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to bomb two military bases?
    Hiroshima was a military base, but after that they needed to shift to industrial targets.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I'll need sources for that.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seco...l_Army_(Japan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Why drop the bomb on Japan but not Germany. Germans fought to the very end, until we took Berlin.
    We had already conquered Germany by the time the A-bombs were ready.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    And Japan was still a threat to the West? Silly?
    They were certainly a threat to the soldiers who would have invaded them had they not surrendered.

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    The point being that a land invasion of Japan was no longer a strategic objective...after Japan capitulated.

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    “ CHAPTER XIII
    "DOWNFALL" THE PLAN FOR THE INVASION OF JAPAN

    Evolution of "Downfall"

    While the war was being fought in the Philippines and Okinawa, plans were ripening rapidly for the largest amphibious operation in the history of warfare. "Downfall," the grand plan for the invasion of Japan, contemplated a gargantuan blow against the islands of Kyushu and Honshu, using the entire available combined resources of the army, navy, and air forces.

    The plans for "Downfall" were first developed early in 1945 by the Combined Chiefs of Staff at the Argonaut Conference held on the tiny island of Malta in the Mediterranean. On 9 February, just a few days before the historic Three-Power meeting at Yalta, President Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill were informed of the conclusions reached at Argonaut. At that time, the strategic concept of future operations in the Pacific embodied the defeat of Japan within eighteen months after Germany's surrender and included the following series of proposed objectives...”
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    “ a. Following the Okinawa operation, to seize additional positions to intensify the blockade air bombardment of Japan in order to create a situation favorable to:

    b. An assault on Kyushu for the purpose of further reducing Japanese capabilities by containing and destroying major enemy forces and further intensifying the blockade and air bombardment in order to establish a tactical condition favorable to:

    c. The decisive invasion of the industrial heart of Japan through the Tokyo Plain.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    No I don't think they were, they'd lost most of their armed forces, had no oil and few resources. I could see the point of the first to stop the Russians and demonstrate the power of nuclear weapons but not the second. The US had a total of nine bombs, an invasion was not even remotely likely.
    And how do you know that?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    No I don't think they were, they'd lost most of their armed forces, had no oil and few resources. I could see the point of the first to stop the Russians and demonstrate the power of nuclear weapons but not the second.
    The second was because Japan was still refusing to surrender. They definitely wanted to take out Kokura Arsenal before we invaded.



    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    The US had a total of nine bombs, an invasion was not even remotely likely.
    Had Japan continued to refuse to surrender, we were going to invade.

    Most of those nine bombs would have been used to clear the beaches just before we invaded. They almost certainly would have made another attempt at Kokura Arsenal however.

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    There is direct evidence that an invasion of Japan was planned in early 1945.

    Fortunately, it was not needed after the two atomic bombs.

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    Sorry, Havana, we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Actually, the war was pretty much won even before the atomic bombs were dropped. It was not a necessary evil, it was yet another war crime America committed during WWII.
    Your instinctive doubt and resentment of America no longer surprises me. Your commie soul shows.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Never target civilians.

    The end.

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    Never target the US Military... in Pearl Harbor or anywhere else in the world.

    The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Never target the US Military... in Pearl Harbor or anywhere else in the world.

    The end.
    Or we'll commit a terrorist act against your civilians?

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