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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I'll need sources for that.
    https://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?ba...tions%20center.

    Hiroshima was chosen as the first target due to its military and industrial values. As a military target, Hiroshima was a major army base that housed the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd Army Headquarters. It was also an important port in southern Japan and a communications center.
    The city of Nagasaki was one of the most important sea ports in southern Japan. Although it was not among the list of potential targets selected by Oppenheimer's committee, it was added later due to its significance as a major war production center for warships, munitions, and other equipment.
    https://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?ba...tions%20center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Or we'll commit a terrorist act against your civilians?
    No, we will defeat you and cause you to surrender and cease your sneak terrorist attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Your instinctive doubt and resentment of America no longer surprises me. Your commie soul shows.
    #strawmanning

    Every major country involved in WWII committed war crimes during the war. I've never defended the atrocities of the Soviet Union either.

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    ww2dbaseOn 16 Jul 1945, while President of the United States Harry Truman was at Potsdam, Germany to meet with his Allied counterparts, long-waited results reached him: The Manhattan Project, the American effort at building the atomic bomb, successfully detonated the first bomb during a test at Los Alamos, New Mexico, United States. Truman, unwilling to risk the huge amount of lives that might be lost on both sides should the Allies invade the Japanese home islands, ordered the usage of the new technology. The scientists presented them with two such weapons, while the military sought uranium to produce a third.

    The salient part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #strawmanning

    Every major country involved in WWII committed war crimes during the war. I've never defended the atrocities of the Soviet Union either.
    List the war crimes...your president, FDR, the most liberal president in history, was president in April, 1945. The Dresden bombings started in Feb. 1945.

    They were necessary because the German people were actively aiding the war effort that cost American soldiers’ lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    List the war crimes...your president, FDR, the most liberal president in history, was president in April, 1945. The Dresden bombings started in Feb. 1945.

    They were necessary because the German people were actively aiding the war effort that cost American soldiers’ lives.
    Wow, you moved those goalposts pretty damn fast.

    There were no war crimes.... there were war crimes, but FDR was liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Actually, the war was pretty much won even before the atomic bombs were dropped. It was not a necessary evil, it was yet another war crime America committed during WWII.
    Japan would have fought to the last man.
    It was necessary to overcome the culture.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #strawmanning

    Every major country involved in WWII committed war crimes during the war. I've never defended the atrocities of the Soviet Union either.
    Commies have an innate and universal resentment of America and freedom. Commies do what they can to hide it, but it always shows. You hate America.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Japan would have fought to the last man.
    It was necessary to overcome the culture.
    They could have still done that. They didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    They could have still done that. They didn't.
    They didnt because of it.
    It demonstrated to the devinely appointed emperor that he could get vaporized whenever we wished. That took the snap out of his shorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Japan would have fought to the last man.
    It was necessary to overcome the culture.
    The Japanese military was so exhausted by that point, we easily could have just captured Hirohito and forced him to end the war. The real reason for dropping the bombs was to show off that we had new powerful weapons.
    Which is some bitter irony, because that was one of the main causes of the first world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Commies have an innate and universal resentment of America and freedom. Commies do what they can to hide it, but it always shows. You hate America.
    I'm not a Commie, but you have shown many times that you are a Fascist. And Fascism is antithetical to the American way. We believe in Democracy, not Fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Japan would have fought to the last man.
    It was necessary to overcome the culture.
    However the US military has NINE bombs available.Three were scheduled for August, three for September and another three for October. Do you think that might have overcome the Bushido culture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The Japanese military was so exhausted by that point, we easily could have just captured Hirohito and forced him to end the war. The real reason for dropping the bombs was to show off that we had new powerful weapons.
    Which is some bitter irony, because that was one of the main causes of the first world war.
    Yes, we could have attacked with the predictable deaths but why ?
    A realistic alternative would have been to go after the emperor but warning the residents and flatening that city was as mild as could be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    However the US military has NINE bombs available.Three were scheduled for August, three for September and another three for October. Do you think that might have overcome the Bushido culture?
    Seems two sufficed.
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