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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Indeed.
    Indeed, it appears that you read my threads and my posts, Mujer de aBuho.

    Thanks, they are very informative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    My father was in thePacific in WWII and his company was preparing for the eventual attack on Japan when the bomb was dropped. The bomb undoubtedly saved American lives. Japan could have surrounded after the first Nuke but we had to use a second. A ground fight would have cost many more lives on both sides.
    The US military planned to drop a total of NINE bombs in August, September and October. Do you really think that they were seriously going to invade Japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    My father was in thePacific in WWII and his company was preparing for the eventual attack on Japan when the bomb was dropped. The bomb undoubtedly saved American lives. Japan could have surrounded after the first Nuke but we had to use a second. A ground fight would have cost many more lives on both sides.
    Thanks to your father.

    My oldest brother was a Naval officer in combat in the South Pacific.

    His life and countless other potential lives were saved by the two atomic bombs...Japanese lives too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    As I mentioned in another discussion about the A-bombs, my dad worked on a part of the Manhattan Project. He suffered a lot of guilt because of it, yet to the end he said that he felt it was necessary to use them, given the circumstances. I'm grateful that no one has since used one.
    Yeh I think he was probably a janitor and accidently ingested some plutonium shavings whilst sweeping the floor. This could easily explain the congenital disorder that you suffer from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    The US military planned to drop a total of NINE bombs in August, September and October. Do you really think that they were seriously going to invade Japan?
    Isn't this common knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    The US military planned to drop a total of NINE bombs in August, September and October. Do you really think that they were seriously going to invade Japan?
    Yes, Havana...before the bomb, there would have been no other choice than to invade Japan.

    The bombs changed the strategic planning.

    It saved a lot of American lives and Japanese lives...no need for a third bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Yes, Havana...before the bomb, there would have been no other choice than to invade Japan.
    Yes before the first agreed, but after that there was no need. if they'd drop all of those then Honshu would have been a wasteland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Yes before the first agreed, but after that there was no need. if they'd drop all of those then Honshu would have been a wasteland.
    The Japanese capitulated after the second bomb.

    Had they not, more bombs would have been needed...fortunately they were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    Complain to the dictionary if you don't like the definition of genocide.
    Genocide is an attempt to extinguish a race or culture, if not worldwide, then at least in a given region.

    Simply massacring a bunch of people because of their race or culture, if there is no attempt to extinguish that race or culture, is properly referred to as a crime against humanity.

    Thus the World Trade Center attack was a crime against humanity but was not genocide.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    A civilian city
    Being a major military center means it's not a civilian city.


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    is not a military target just because it has military installations.
    Sure it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    It's like taking out Norfolk just to get the Naval yard.
    Yes. Exactly correct. Norfolk is quite similar to what Hiroshima was like in WWII Japan.

    And if the US ever comes under a large-scale nuclear attack, Norfolk is going to get hammered hard.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    A use of such a weapon was a crime against humanity as well no matter the reasoning.
    It would have been a crime against humanity had we been targeting civilians. However we were attacking a military target.

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    The Japanese war of aggression was ended in 1945.

    It could have been extended with more atomic bombs as revenge for the thousands of American deaths at Pearl Harbor and throughout the island battles.

    It was not extended which speaks to the morality of the American leadership.

    I doubt that Japan would hsve done the same, had the roles been reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    The US military planned to drop a total of NINE bombs in August, September and October.
    At some point they were going to start saving them up so they could use them all at once just before the invasion.

    They probably would have eliminated Kokura Arsenal before they started saving them up however.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Do you really think that they were seriously going to invade Japan?
    They were going to invade if Japan had kept refusing to surrender.

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    Why drop the bomb on Japan but not Germany. Germans fought to the very end, until we took Berlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Why drop the bomb on Japan but not Germany. Germans fought to the very end, until we took Berlin.
    Only an imbecile would ask such a stupid question! Because the war in Europe was over before the bombs were ready!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Only an imbecile would ask such a stupid question! Because the war in Europe was over before the bombs were ready!

    :sms:
    And Japan was still a threat to the West? Silly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Only an imbecile would ask such a stupid question! Because the war in Europe was over before the bombs were ready!

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