Bombs dropped on Japan saved millions of lives

[Bill]

You denied this, liar. Germany started the war.

They declared war, what started the war is another matter is it not??

[Bill]

We were at war with Japan. Bombing cities is part of warfare. Children and old people and citizens getting killed is part of warfare. These have always been victims in any war. There is nothing different about Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

No, ppl make it part of warfare, an actual man makes a decision to kill them, their is no esoteric hand doing so......... Even a fuckin bird brain can figure that out, yea think??

[Bill]

Two cities is not global nuclear annihilation.

LIAR!!!!

[Truth Detector]

They declared war, what started the war is another matter is it not??

No, ppl make it part of warfare, an actual man makes a decision to kill them, their is no esoteric hand doing so......... Even a fuckin bird brain can figure that out, yea think??

LIAR!!!!

[Sailor]

Dead Americans 111,606 . Can you understand that number? Now show your ignorance.

Once again..???? Where are you getting this incorrect number from asshole? Post it. Then I will beat you senseless with your own stupidity.

[Anvil Kasseri]

Sadly that makes you feel better about annihilating women & children...........

Soldiers, weapons factories, and military headquarters are not women and children.

LIAR!!!!

His statement looked pretty truthful to me.

If nuking two cities was global annihilation, then how is it that we are still here? It seems we should have been annihilated long ago.

[Bill]

Soldiers, weapons factories, and military headquarters are not women and children.



His statement looked pretty truthful to me.

If nuking two cities was global annihilation, then how is it that we are still here? It seems we should have been annihilated long ago.

Why did you add global now?? stop moving your goal posts...........

You are welcome to believe whatever suits you, I don't care...........

You know what I believe.........

[cancel2 2022]

good thing we only had 2.

That not even close to being true. The plutonium core for the third bomb was already on its way to Tinian after Nagasaki and there were another nine in the pipeline to be dropped in September and October.

[crowonapost]

Two cities is not global nuclear annihilation.

So, things and stuff as expert, neat. You said nothing with no authority.

[Anvil Kasseri]

Why did you add global now?? stop moving your goal posts...........

You must have misread the post that you denounced as a lie, as I did not add anything.

Go back and look at your post. "Global" is right there in the original quoted statement.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...63#post3836963

[cancel2 2022]

That not even close to being true. The plutonium core for the third bomb was already on its way to Tinian after Nagasaki and there were another nine in the pipeline to be dropped in September and October.

For once we are more or less on the same side. However, I like to do research first if I don't know the background to an issue, you seldom do that as witnessed here.

[Anvil Kasseri]

I like to do research first if I don't know the background to an issue, you seldom do that as witnessed here.

You've never witnessed me comment on a subject that I am not already fully expert on.

[Into the Night]

Those are not unrelated. You are wrong again. The thread said it saved millions. It obviously did not. Did you really fail to understand that? Was it too hard for you?

Speculation. You are still making up numbers. Strawman fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. No argument presented.

[Into the Night]

Count the numbers of dead American soldiers in a land invasion of Japan. Or count the number of Japanese deaths if we had to use a second...third...fourth bomb.

There would have been no deaths had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor and murdered more than 2000 Americans.

Since we cannot count the deaths of U.S. or Japanese soldiers and civilians if the U.S. invaded Japan instead of using the Bombs, this really is a argument about speculations.

The Bombs were dropped. Truman made the decision to drop them. They were effective in bring the Japanese to the surrender table. Japan since has been shown a more profitable way than warfare. It's done.

[Into the Night]

Here's a three page article showing that Truman was given estimates that invading Japan would cost from 500,000 to 1,000,000 American lives:

https://www.americanheritage.com/did...need-drop-bomb

Now, perhaps someone might disagree with those estimates, but there is little question that those are the estimates that Truman was given.

Of course, these ARE estimates. They are, by their nature, guesses. It doesn't matter who produced them.