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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I didn’t say that.
    I see. So payroll taxes weren't cut by the stimulus package passed by the Obama Administration and those payroll taxes that weren't cut didn't affect S.S. and Medicare as the claim was made they will now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Surely this is UnConstitutional...which makes me ask What Trump is up to...what he expects to happen....what he wants to happen.

    I take a very dim view of UnConstitutional actions.
    He is placing Dems in a bind. They can either allow the EO stand and the American worker/voter gets relief or they can go to court and yank back the relief the President is trying to give the worker/voter. People will look kindly on getting extra help right now but they will not look kindly on having Pelosi and her gang rip that relief away. So the Dems lose either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Sidestepping Congress
    to be fair, it's not side stepping if you walk all over someone getting from point A to point B......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    aid to states and cities
    fuck the blue states and blue cities.....I've been hearing for years that they are the richest in the country.......let them pay their bills and then give money to the "poor" red states......after all, you're all busy saying the red states are the ones facing a crisis right now.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    He is placing Dems in a bind. They can either allow the EO stand and the American worker/voter gets relief or they can go to court and yank back the relief the President is trying to give the worker/voter. People will look kindly on getting extra help right now but they will not look kindly on having Pelosi and her gang rip that relief away. So the Dems lose either way.

    he is pandering to his uneducated base

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    Dems demands dropped to $2T overnight. they caved from $3.8T
    all because of Trump- and not the ridiculous Republicans

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    Default Here’s what is actually in Trump’s four executive orders

    1. He delays payroll tax collection for those making under $104,000

    Trump instructs the U.S. Treasury to halt collection of payroll taxes from Sept. 1 through Dec. 31 for workers who earn under less than $4,000 every two weeks (that’s people earning under about $104,000 a year).

    This will feel like a tax cut for a few weeks because workers will end up with larger paychecks while the tax is not collected. But it is technically a tax deferral, meaning the taxes will still be due at a later date.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ge%2Fstory-ans

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    Congress already deferred most employer payroll taxes for the rest of 2020,
    so Trump is now attempting to defer workers’ payroll taxes as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why did Obama cut payroll taxes as part of his stimulus package if it was designed to kill S.S. and Medicare?
    Trump said if he is re elected the payroll tax cuts will be continued well into next year, and possibly permanently. Do you understand???

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Congress already deferred most employer payroll taxes for the rest of 2020,
    so Trump is now attempting to defer workers’ payroll taxes as well
    Really???

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Dems demands dropped to $2T overnight. they caved from $3.8T
    all because of Trump- and not the ridiculous Republicans
    The democrats offered a compromise, what did trump have to do with it- Nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.
    SIDESTEPPING TREASON-O-CRATS PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE WELL-BEING OF AMERICANS ...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    The democrats offered a compromise, what did trump have to do with it- Nothing!
    THE SLEAZOCRATS KEEP TRYING TO USE THE PANDEMIC TO FORWARED THEIR RADICAL AGENDA.

    TRUMP JUST BITCH SLAPPED THEM FOR IT.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.
    no 1200 stimulus checks
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    Hello jacksonsprat22,

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.
    The great deal maker failed to make a deal.

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