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    Default Sidestepping Congress, Trump Signs Executive Measures for Pandemic Relief

    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.
    Surely this is UnConstitutional...which makes me ask What Trump is up to...what he expects to happen....what he wants to happen.

    I take a very dim view of UnConstitutional actions.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Surely this is Unconstitutional...which makes me ask What Trump is up to...what he expects to happen....what he wants to happen.
    Hard to see what his authority is as President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Hard to see what his authority is as President.
    It is written down what his authority is.

    This is not that.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    The payroll tax holiday is designed to kill Social Security and Medicare. The taxes are not gone, but deferred. You will have to pay them back in the future. The Lincoln project,
    Defunds Medicare
    Defunds Social security
    tax collection is deferred
    You will pay them next year.
    Rightys will buy it because they do no homework.. It Trump says it, it is fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The payroll tax holiday is designed to kill Social Security and Medicare. The taxes are not gone, but deferred. You will have to pay them back in the future. The Lincoln project,
    Defunds Medicare
    Defunds Social security
    tax collection is deferred
    You will pay them next year.
    Rightys will buy it because they do no homework.. It Trump says it, it is fact.
    Why did Obama cut payroll taxes as part of his stimulus package if it was designed to kill S.S. and Medicare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    It was not clear what authority Mr. Trump had to act on his own on the measures or what immediate effect, if any, they would have, given that Congress controls federal spending.

    But despite Mr. Trump’s assertions on Saturday that his actions “will take care of this entire situation,” the orders also leave a number of critical bipartisan funding proposals unaddressed, including providing assistance to small businesses, billions of dollars to schools ahead of the new school year, aid to states and cities and a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks to Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    At least Trump is pretending to care.
    Generally speaking politicians often do their worse work under the guise of 'pretending to care' and that's what is happening here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why did Obama cut payroll taxes as part of his stimulus package if it was designed to kill S.S. and Medicare?
    Congress did that, not Obama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Congress did that, not Obama!
    I see. He and his administration had no say in what went into it and he didn't sign it into law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I see. He and his administration had no say in what went into it and he didn't sign it into law?
    I didn’t say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Why did Obama cut payroll taxes as part of his stimulus package if it was designed to kill S.S. and Medicare?
    These lefties are really economic illiterates. They parrot ideas without examining them. It's hilarious and sad that they get to vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Congress did that, not Obama!
    Obama did not veto it. He signed the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I didn’t say that.
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    I guess Trump will test the constitutionality of Article II legislation, given recent history.
    Ironic after all the attacks on Obama.

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